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    When straigt guys talk about their number 1 fantasy (sex with [female] twins) that's OK, but when gays talk that way (HERE) it's peverted and disgusting. What gives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    >>>IT'S WRONG! | IT'S WRONG! | IT'S WRONG! Totally disgusting. Totally crass. Totally indecent...and DON'T give me that tired turnaround about "well, some say being gay is wrong."

    Sorry, but I'm going to. Because the first twelve words have been, and continue to be, the complete and utter justification for homophobia in some people. So you'd best come up with something a bit better than "it's wrong".

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    Just because it's tired doesn't mean it isn't apt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaseybrite View Post
    I don't "best" have to come up with anything better than what I originally said. Incest is wrong, in my opinion. Comparing my saying that incest is wrong to what homophobes think about homosexuality is, again, a tired analogy.

    And since I doubt that any degenerate siblings who indulge in incest will stop simply because **I** think it's wrong, the spin and indignation is silly. They can do whatever they wanna do. I'm still gonna have my opinion.

    Why do you think it's wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    Well, incest is illegal in most (all?) US states, partially because there are genetic reasons to keep siblings from reproducing. (Gotta keep the gene pool open or it goes stagnant, dontcha know.) These rationales obviously go by the wayside when it comes to same-sex siblings, so not sure what the rationale would be there.

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    Couldn't agree more. The incest tabou is needed because you don't want consanguine babies, which could lead to malformation.
    that doesn't apply to same gender sex, there is no fear of having a baby.



    However to quote the Bible, which seems often the reference in JUB, how do you think the children of Adam and Eva had children ???????

    Just to show how unreliable those old books are.
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    I recently sawa story about a man and woman in Germany who fell in love. It wasn't until afterward that it was discovered that they were in fact brother and sister (they were raised in different households). Should that change anything?

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    I love my relatives, but I don't love them in the bedroom, nor do I have a desire to. There's too many non-relations running around in this world for me to bed, I have no reason or desire to turn to relatives for sex.

    Personally, it's a line that I wouldn't want to cross. I would think there'd be some serious emotional issues that would result from such a union, gay or straight. Why would someone want to "go there" if they knew it could possibly cause them to have issues?

    Consenting or not, I personally wouldn't recommend it. That's just my humble opinion.

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    other animals do it, in fact in cheetahs its very common for fathers to mate with daughters, mothers with sons and brothers and sisters (granted that is why their gene pool is limited and they are becoming extinct)

    many members of the animal/mammal kindgon have sex with relatives, many species use sex as a social activity, like grooming (my rabbits are always at it hehe)and others use it to settle conflict or decide on pecking order within a group.

    we are mammals, granted the most evolved mammal on the planet (as far as we know) but still mammals at heart.

    I realise this is no excuse and I am personally still grossed out by the idea of having sex with your brother, whether its because I am female, society has told me its illegal, or any other argument that has been put forth I dont know, and it doesnt matter what the reason is, because its my reason
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    I don t understand why some men jerk off watching a brother and a sister having sex or watching 2 brothers having sex.Incest its not normal.

    Men are not supposed to be exited by that.

    If a brother have sex with his sister.They could have a child.So that child would have a brother and a sister for parents.That brother and that sister would most likely have problems with their family because most of them would not accept that.They would be ashamed of them.When that child would be a teen.It would be very hard for that teen.Because at school teen would make fun of that teen because he have a brother and a sister as parents.

    2 brothers also is wrong.Some brothers don t only have sex but they can also be in love.

    Some men are exited by the forbidden and deviant things.A lot of men are pervert.They seems to think that its ok for men to be pervert.Theres some porn you see a father having sex with his son.Why a son would have sex with his father?He suck the cock of is father and his father do the same.The father fuck his son.Even for money they can t do that.This is his real father.Not fake.Even if his son was an adult its wrong.Maybe 21 years old.They should be ashamed.Those who make these porn are pervert.Those who jerk off to these porn also.

    Why 2 brothers would have sex together when they can have sex with another man?

    Do you think these brothers and sisters and brothers and brothers are ashamed of the sex they have or they like it?

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    Personally, if I had a brother I wouldn't want to have sex with him. I don't think that it is wrong though, if two brothers choose to have sex that's their choice to make and not mine to condemn.

    But still... I'm very annoyed by my boyfriend's uncle's partner (so not remotely related) trying to get into my pants.

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    Perhaps such "fantasies" exist as a bit of rebellion against society. And, while I question whether incest fantasies are more common amongst gays, perhaps being viewed as less than excrement by very vocal elements of society makes gays desire to "stick it" to society just a wee bit more. Why do "straight" men get excited by two women having sex (thereby making the man unneeded)?

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    I still find having sex with your brother or sister mothe ror whatever to be... well freaky, not to mention the bad genes that would get passed along.

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    It is as "natural" as homosexuality. So this hypocricy and "ewww's" are nothing more then ignorant banter.

    The act does not fit into what I would describe as "obvious logic", but neither does homosexuality. Penis goes in vagina, things line up, so homosexuality doesn't make sense in that aspect. But the world isn't so simple where obvious logic works all the time. We have many other components that have to be there, that many times aren't looked at in a good light, that serve as important function.

    IMO, any social interaction has potential for sexual intercourse. (and obviously that would include family)

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    Now in terms of psychology, good/bad. IMO these interactions can only be bad.

    In that sense, there is where we can claim that it may not be "natural". But natural is not a great word because natural to me is anything that is occuring. (and that is) We like to claim positive things are natural but when you really think about, natural means things that are occuring.

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    The biggest problem with incest would be a major re-definition of the relationship which would greatly impact what we know as family. At least what we know as family. We like to think of family as people who are there for us REGARDLESS of anything, unconditional love. You need something, they are there for you. A big part of this unconditional love is there because the definition of family is all about standards and taking care but never crossing the line. That means not getting violent with your family, instead taking care of them. It is all about moderation, to develop a neutral, well rounded individual, who can see all sides and make wise decisions.

    When sex gets thrown in the equation, feelings that were never there will be there. Then you would begin treating family like you treat a bf/gf. What do you think about when you are emotional about a significant other? You wonder if they are cheating, you wonder if they love you, you do things to get sex. You start having that with a family member and all of the sudden the uncoditional love is out of the window and you have feelings there which describe a lot of other relationship types. It complicates a relationship that doesnt' really need that.

    If you were to argue about this you can say that people cheat in families, that there is a lot of violence in families, etc etc, so why would this just not be one of those things. I guess its all about choices and deciding if that is a risk worth taking.

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    Wow, this thread is going on forever!

    I think some of us are going seriously off-topic.

    This thread wasn't started on the topic of imbreeding between family and relatives or brothers falling in love.

    Having sex can mean a lot of things. Jacking off together, oral, and anal or any form of sexual activity. Seriously, for those who had brothers growing up, you guys have never engage in any form of sexual activity while growing up? I'm not talking about falling in love. I'm talking about playing around sexually.

    For those who doesn't have a brother, you can say you are disgusted by it. That is fine, because everyone can have their own opinion. It is still NOT okay to say that is wrong.

    And to point out another concern about watching porn movies dealing with incest.
    Why shouldn't men be excited to that? Why not? It is still sex isn't it? Everyone have their own taste of sexual excitement.

    The last time I checked, a pervert mean someone who practices perversion. In this case, someone who practices in sexual perversion: a sexual practice or act considered abnormal or deviant. This defination fits with homosexual having gay sex as well, which is still being considered by society as not normal.

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    I have three older brothers and have no desire what-so-ever to have sex with them.

    Of course, I also know some guys who I'm not related to and I have no desire to have sex with them either.

    I have a few imperfections I think I'll work on before I start running around telling others that they should live their lives based on my believes or what makes me go eeeeeeeeewwwww

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    This thread sucks. Here I read through three pages and instead of stories, I get lame opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Believe18 View Post
    This thread sucks. Here I read through three pages and instead of stories, I get lame opinions.


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    Hey guys...taking a break from the "other" thread with which I have been so preoccupied as of late, I want to offer this just to clarify:

    There is REAL incest porn in the gay world. I know for CERTRAIN that the Bartek (Bartok?) twins are in fact twins and did "go all the way" with eachother at least once on film. In addition, Tim and Sean O'Brien (twins) had sex (all kinds of sex) on film in a full film or segment of a film called "Duplicated". Bijoux video maybe? It was shot in the 70's.

    I've seen them both. Kind of weird, but sorta hot too in a way...maybe because I never had a brother it seems very far removed from "real life" for me because the thought of father/son brother/sister mother/son sex is TOTALLY repugnant to me in many ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tila123 View Post
    omg.

    i cant believe this thread was made.

    don't even get me fucking started.

    ok... here i go *inhales*

    now, personally, i have never done it with my brother or want to, but i still believe that it's ok for people to do that.

    YOU only THINK it's taboo because SOCIETY has taught you that it's wrong.

    personally, I'm shocked that a gay man would say something was immoral or wrong when we have millions of people that say and think being gay is way worse.

    after all the ridicule we go through as gay men, i'm shocked you could say something was immoral.

    theres people that say homosexuality is just as bad as rape or child molestation, yet look to persecute something SOCIETY, NOT God, has taught you is wrong.

    chew on that. get back to me.
    My sentiments exactly! Incest protects against inbreeding as mentioned before, and I agree that it isn't right in the heterosexal context. But same sex incest is a case where the rules don't apply, since bloodlines do not need to be protected from the expression of harmful recessive traits. As long as there's no cheating involved I say let people enjoy each other. I think it's safer than anomynous sex, which I'm certainly guilty of. To answer the question, only one of my 3 brothers is hot, Don't know how he got so lucky. But he is very str8 and I would never feel right approaching him in any sexual way. If he were gay, well then hmm..... Peace
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    If you read the posts on the other forums, seems like most people who try it with their brothers end up OK with it, often it even seems to bring them closer. I don't remember a single one where the guy said he wished he hadn't done it, or it fucked everything up. Many say they still do it, and sometimes the brother is even straight. And yet somehow everything comes out OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Lexington View Post
    I recently sawa story about a man and woman in Germany who fell in love. It wasn't until afterward that it was discovered that they were in fact brother and sister (they were raised in different households). Should that change anything?

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    They have four children, two of them totally sane, two retarded. Whether this is a consequential damage of the incest, isn't clear.
    It's true: incest can increase the risk for genetic damages.
    But: Condamning someone else's decision to give birth to a possibly retarded child is not only bigoted, it's disgusting near to the wish of euthanasia.
    The prohibition of sex between near relatives is motivated through the fact that in most of the occuring cases only one of the two persons involved acts of his own will. Law has to take care of the defenseless.


    Back to topic:
    I have no brothers, just a sister. I wouldn't want to have sex with her for many reasons.
    If I had a brother, he was gay and wanted me to play with him... propably I'd say yes depending on whether I find him attractive or not.

    When two brothers want to have sex with each other: why not, when they both act voluntarily. I don't see anything disgusting with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradmartin1975 View Post
    I have to say that I am new here, today is my first post, and this is a very interesting subject. I chronicle my almost decade of incest between me and my older brother on lulu.com in my book "The Baby & The Beast". I don't know if incest is wrong or not, I only know I went through it and I didn't come out of it too screwed up LOL.
    Good for you!! Being able to defend yourself and admit about you and your brother is very brave, especially when the majority of this thread is totally against the idea. For your first post, you are very courageous. I am glad for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGHJ View Post
    If you read the posts on the other forums, seems like most people who try it with their brothers end up OK with it, often it even seems to bring them closer. I don't remember a single one where the guy said he wished he hadn't done it, or it fucked everything up. Many say they still do it, and sometimes the brother is even straight. And yet somehow everything comes out OK.
    True. To me, I feel that the only people that can criticize about this are those who have done it personally themselves. Those who haven't does not have the right to say to others what they are doing/did is wrong.

    Opinions like being disgusted are fine. Calling others sick or crazy is not.

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    The interesting side effect of this thread: it helps to sort out the jubbers to whom I won't confess to much of my life because of their narrow-mindedness and intolerant attitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukylok View Post
    Couldn't agree more. The incest tabou is needed because you don't want consanguine babies, which could lead to malformation.
    that doesn't apply to same gender sex, there is no fear of having a baby.



    However to quote the Bible, which seems often the reference in JUB, how do you think the children of Adam and Eva had children ???????

    Just to show how unreliable those old books are.
    The Taboo existed before humans even knew about Genetics.

    It had more to do with status and roles in the past, a daughter being competition for her own mother (could start problems) and if a daughter had a child would it be considered the father's child or grandchild?

    What I wrote above was discussed in my Sociology class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDsmagik View Post
    Cue Barbara...

    "...are the luckiest brothers, in the world. "
    LOL! But it might depend on the physical appearance of one's bro. People! This is more a fantasy than a fact. And, if it was a fact, who am I to judge 'til I've walked a mile in their shoes?

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    I never really thought about it. I've got 2 brothers, having sex with them wouldn't appeal to me in the slightest. But I figure if people want to do it, go for it. just be safe about it. I don't like to be judged, and I try my best to avoid judging other people. life is to be lived, who is to say how you should live it.

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    What's wrong with two consenting males having sex with one another? Well, lots of sexually repressed people say that is wrong (like Fred Pheps and his issue.

    So if it is two concenting brothers, who are we to judge and condemn them?

    Just two horny guys who are helping one another out with natural urges.

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    Bearded Woof,

    The thread is "brothers who have sex with their brothers."

    No mention of rape or mom/son. dad/daughter. And I find rape of any kind (homo or hetro) totally repulsive.

    The key word is consenting males (which could be read as brothers). Not one taking advantage of the other.

    Chill out, Woof!

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    I'm just going to put in my two cents. Take it for what it's worth.

    Americans, in general, (as I cannot speak for other countries, I will not include them) are too nosy. Who's business is it if two brothers consent to have sex? Who's business is it if a really skinny man and a really fat man consent to have sex? We see crazy mixtures that we judge far too often. When girls are getting pregnant at thirteen, our sense of morals, nationally, is slipping, our spiritualness is spiraling downward and our sense of neighborhood and friendliness is dwindling, the least we have to worry about is what two people of any scenario are doing behind closed doors.

    Our poverty rates are up, our orphanges are full, our money for social security is running out, our schools are run down and overrun, and we go about judging others before we stop and consider that we each have an obligation to reevaluate our own lives before we can even begin to judge others.

    What's up with that? Even I find myself judging couples and individuals alike, but that doesn't make it right.

    This should be the real issue behind this post--what gives us the authority to judge any life but our own?

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    Totally agree with ya, Joshawa!

    And let's see, just who was it that said something like "let he who is without sin cast the FIRST stone"?

    This thread has turned into a lot of stones being thrown. OUCH!!!

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    Joshawa: Believe me, not just the Americans ! Try Greeks... They gotta be the nosiest people around...At least as nosy as the Americans !

    Back to topic ! I can't say if it's "wrong" or "right" cos...well, who am I to judge what's wrong or right ?!! But I can safely say I wouldn't do it. Heck, I wouldn't even have sex with my cousin who's my age and verrrrrrrrrry hot ! I'd just feel all weird and...well, weird ! It just repels me..

    This whole "morality" thing that a lot of people (not just here, everywhere) have going on and telling other people you shouldn't do that because it's IMMORAL and stuff is really ticking me off . Who are you, buddy, to judge what's wrong and what's right ?

    Just 'cause[ B] I[/B] won't do it doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who do it/like to do it...and usually the ones preaching about morals are the ones doing all the dirrrrrty stuff !

    I usually follow this "philosophy": As long as you don't harm anyone, do whatever you want !

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    Quote Originally Posted by grady26 View Post
    Totally agree with ya, Joshawa!

    And let's see, just who was it that said something like "let he who is without sin cast the FIRST stone"?

    This thread has turned into a lot of stones being thrown. OUCH!!!

    I agree too.

    And, it's so typical here on JUB, when anyone suggests anything a bit out of the ordinary, a bit progressive, a bit daring, or a bit non-vanilla, the prudes come running out of the woodwork.

    I don't know why it surprises me that gay guys can be as judgemental and close-minded as the rest of the population, but they sure can be, can't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaseybrite View Post
    ^ My fault, I didn't know incest was considered "progressive."
    I was referring to all the other times anything like 3-ways, open relationships, casual sex, etc. came up here on JUB, not just this thread....

    But maybe this is considerered "daring" or "non-vanilla", OK?

    Anyway, I bet most gays trapped on a desert island, with only their brother as company, would soon lose their inhibitions and would maybe re-define "incest".

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    not this again.......

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    i miss my brother now he's moved away. he's 2 years older than me and used to fuck me on a fairly regular basis. i loved feeling his big cock in my arse and loved him to cum inside me.

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    Woof still doesn't get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego_Ryan View Post
    The Taboo existed before humans even knew about Genetics.

    It had more to do with status and roles in the past, a daughter being competition for her own mother (could start problems) and if a daughter had a child would it be considered the father's child or grandchild?

    What I wrote above was discussed in my Sociology class.

    Anyway brothers are no competition for each other on that level. On the contrary in the case of brothers it is the exact reverse of evil competition. It even is an efficient barrier against evil competition.

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    if it is mutual , it seems fine with me. it's their business. those who have problems with it can relax in knowing they will never do it
    ding

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    I hate incest, I don't know how people can have sex with their relatives. I have only seen two brothers together, they were twins and they were jerking off. However they were back to back so they didn't see each other or anything. It was really hot actually, they were doing a mirror effect. Now that I think about it, I don't know why they were back to back because they look exactly the same. It would just be like looking in a mirror at yourself. Anyway...



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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopydog View Post
    I have 5 brothers. I have 1 younger brother. I am 1 of (so far) 3 gay male siblings.

    And I have to say that, for me, brotherly love has it's limit...
    3 out of your 5 brothers are gay?! that's crazy...

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    The O'Brien twins going all the way in 20 min. video:

    picture: http://www.justusboys.com/forum/user.../6/0/96361.jpg

    video: http://rapidshare.com/files/34992413/real01.wmv

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    i love the o'brien twins....

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    Quote Originally Posted by snoopydog View Post
    I have 5 brothers. I have 1 younger brother. I am 1 of (so far) 3 gay male siblings.

    And I have to say that, for me, brotherly love has it's limit...
    I know a family of 4 brothers. They are all gay. Their father hates gays. I hope your father can stand gays. I think god blessed that father with 4 gay sons to learn men to think twice before go and beat up gays. That was his fav sports with a few other guys in my school.

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    2 or 5 brothers are gay in my family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermanding View Post
    if it is mutual , it seems fine with me. it's their business. those who have problems with it can relax in knowing they will never do it
    ding
    omg.

    u mean we actually agree on something?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bulge View Post
    I know a family of 4 brothers. They are all gay. Their father hates gays. I hope your father can stand gays. I think god blessed that father with 4 gay sons to learn men to think twice before go and beat up gays. That was his fav sports with a few other guys in my school.
    All four gay? .. Wow ... Sorry it's not meant to be funny, but it is very interesting and quite hot. I wonder how the father handled that. Anything more you can add?

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    See my posting on the "Ever sucked your males relative's dick" thread. Awesome experience with my younger brother - he forced me and then I became hooked!

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