I used to have a PC, now I'm into Mac. Actually the only reason I'm using Mac because I love the Mac Pro designs
MAC's are ok for people who don't work with others and don't want to share documents with PC users. Also you cannot buy nearly as many software titles. If you are in the business world MACs make your life more difficult. However, over the years Apple has made the MAC be able to interact more with the PC. Why would Apple do this? Because most of the world is PC.
MACs use to be faster in some cases when they were using the very powerful Power PC made by IBM. IBM still uses a similar processor in their very high end Power (RS6000) servers. However, now MAC went to Intel just during this last year.
Lots of schools use to have MACs as Apple gave very good incentives. I use to be an Admin for a large school district and also have friends doing so. Most of them have went to PCs to give the students better preparation for the business world where in 99% of the cases they will be using a PC in some way when they begin their working years.
I am not saying Microsoft is the best. However its whats known. Since OS X is mostly linux. You can get a copy of SUSE linux or any flavor you want and if you are savy you can easily get your version of linux to out perform a MAC any day. PC is the way to go.
I'm a PC guy. Windows XP crashes only rarely (less than once a month) for me (and I run some pretty intense stuff). I worked at a photo studio that got a new G5 Dual a few years ago. OS X definitely had some stability problems. We could crash it a few times per month (running PHotoshop mainly).
As far as I'm concerned, they're almost even stability-wise. XP is really quite good. There's a lot of reputation to deal with, and it's hard to break that.
Another reason...I'm addicted to TrackPoints, which means I'm stuck with IBM/Lenovo laptops.
Yet another reason...I've got a ton of Windows software.
Yet another reason...Pro|Engineer, a 3D CAD package exists for UNIX and Windows.
I know that the whole BootCamp package can let me run those pieces of software, but then there's the cost problem.
A PC will be cheaper for the same performance.
So, I'm stuck in PC land.
I'll take PC and Windows XP is very stable. I've never had a problem or a crash with it and find it very forgiving. I have no problem with MAC. They are a great machine although I find them used mostly in high graphics situations and with people who use a lot of graphics applications. I have an older MAC that still runs. I just prefer PC.
I used to have PC but never again. Macs are so much better. Never had a virus with a Mac and I always seem to have got them on a PC.
The OS X interface (desktop etc) is so much better then XP.
For those who are unsure visit apple.com and watch the TV ads. They are so funny.
mac's are the best!!
1 thing that does shit me is people who have macs saying we cant get viruses it just not true if mac had the market share microsoft had there would be tons of viruses for macs but they dont go after the 3-5% that have macs because they can cause much more havok making a virus for windows
i would buy a mac but the only problem is that when i look at value i can get a better spec pc made for normally a few hundred dollars less
also i have never had stability issues with XP it seems that only mac users have these issues funny that
I got a fair bit of money for my birthday last month, and I think I will for christmas, so I'm considering buying a Mac to supplement my PC, if only to play around with it, to see if I like it.
I'm thinking about getting one of those Mac Mini's, and maybe a nice Apple monitor to replace my IBM LCD.
PC only. Macs suck donkey balls.
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I run both, but I really prefer a PC. Mine runs stable and I never had problems with spyware or viruses. MacOS is not bad, but the software is not that good. And let's face it: it's terrible expansive.
It might also have to do with my really bad Mac related experience lately .
Even though I do my online banking only from my mac
Back in elementary school, our librarian taught us how to use Macs. Ever since then, I can't look at a Mac desktop without having a flashback of her unshaved armpits.
Guess I'll stick to PC.
At home an iMac, at work some Dell Crap running some Windows Crap!
The only reason Macs never get viruses is because PC's are the standard around the world and that's what virus developers want to do, infect as many computers as possible. Can't do that by targeting Macs, not worth the effort.
With all this bragging about how Macs don't get viruses it wouldn't surprise me if somebody wrote one specifically for mac just to prove it can be done, and I hope they do just to prove a point. I'm sure Macs are not completely invulnerable.
If you are a PC user with half a brain, you don't get viruses anyway. I've been a PC user for many many years and have never once been infected. Sure, I have virus protection software but I'm not stupid. If you have a PC you do need it. However, it won't make me switch to Mac, ever.
i've only had win xp crash like 2-3 times in the 4-5 years i've had it. i've had software that after i install windows was screwed up, but windows xp hasn't just like crashed like 95, 98, or Me did.
i tried learning to use a mac in grad school and i couldn't ever seem to get the hang of it. I like PCs and i like being able to use linux when i want to (knoppix RULES).
Windows for me.
I have both as well, and I believe they each have their place in the platform world. Of course, my Mac has a proper name (Chad) - while I just call my PC "bastard child".
PC -- I'm too lazy to learn a whole new computer routine and I've heard PC's are more user friendly.
There does seem to be a certain amount of snobbery amongst MAC users. There's this coffee house in the college town I live in where you'll only see MAC laptop users. You'd probably get coffee grounds thrown at you if you came in with a PC laptop!
I've used Mac's in school when I was doing design works, Websites, Flash Animation, Photoshop design, Illustrator design. PC's are best used for gaming and other things. So my thoughts and opinion if you so choose to flame me for:
PC's are good for
Some Photoshop design
Some Web design
Chatting and webcamming
PC's are bad for
Flash Animation editing
Mac's are good for
Mac's are bad for
I haven't used a Mac in a long time so I'm not sure what else it's good for. But I've heard from people that chatting isn't that great unless you use services that are strictly for Mac's, unlike Yahoo not much features are available like the PC version has.
Personally, I haven't used a Mac, yet, but I will be buying one sometime in the future. I am currently on my 3rd or 4th computer due to Windows crashing on me. The first time was with an old OS: I think it was Windows 98 or 95...Pretty sure it was 98. Crashed on me whenever I tried to run simple programs...Then there was my hybrid, frankenstein computer. Don't get me wrong, it was a good computer, OS was Windows XP, good processor, etc, but one glitch: it was a bootleg, unbeknownst to me. Then when I tried to download a patch for Adobe Acrobat Reader...well...it crashed...and stayed crashed. Those two computers are in the basement, collecting dust and god knows what...And I have my current computer, which is good, but slow at times...
And that is why I am going to convert to Mac. True, expensive, but worth it in the long run...
I don't use Yahoo! Messenger or AIM. I prefer iChat and Skype (BETA) 184.108.40.206 which has video.
I have had varied success with others. I may get video but no sound, or the video is unable to be tunneled therefore it looks like I'm watching a flickbook comic, others I can see them but they can't see me.
A reoccuring theme in this thread is the availability of large numbers of business applications for windows. It has already been discussed that MS Office is available for both platforms. At one time there was a lack of accounting software for the Mac, but at last count there are 23 packages. In addition to this I got 69 pages of google hits for open source free packages.
Windows and Mac files are generally readable cross platform.
Another way either windows or Mac based businesses can save is with X-Serve server. And because an unlimited client license for Mac OS X Server is included at no additional cost, you can save hundreds, or even thousands, of dollars on licensing fees. Microsoft will shaft you with a fee for every user.
It is a pity that Apple didn't release a windose version of iChat along with the iSight camera. Video conferencing at 30 fps with a maximum of 4 or 5 people in the conference. Large size window and high quality too. But that may be a moot point because when Vista gets into wider circulation, I feel the number of windows users jumping ship to the Mac side will increase rapidly.
As far as pricing goes, the last published comparison I saw had equivalent desktop and laptops at $50. less for Mac than Dell.
The best computer is the one which: supports your lifetsyle, supports your work and play, and fits in best with your usage style. Macs are brilliantly engineered, and probably have the best integration of hardware and software, whereas PCs have the market share. For myself, I use linux, because it best supports the way I think.
OS wars - love 'em.
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For me Windows all the way. Sure MacOS X is pretty, and functional but as a developer my primary concern is ease of development. Writing applications for a Mac is simply HARD. A much smaller percentage of developers know Coco than Win32 and ASP.Net is becoming the best way to write web-apps. Even as a web developer I have issues supporting Safari because it's got some pretty glaring gaps (eg dynamic styles) in its poorly documented api support. Given that something like 75% of software is small applications which are custom developed for business processes, this has been a major hindrance to the Mac's acceptance in the business world.
From a management standpoint, OS X made it much easier to administer lots of macs, but there's still nowhere near the level of 'Enterprise support' that Windows or even Linux has.
to address sheep's latest comments
1) Most admins worth their salt even in 100% Microsoft shops run Samba for their file & print servers cause it performs much better on the same hardware.
2) OS X cant run most of my custom-developed server applications which is what matters in a server.
3) sure you can get 1-10 Mac's cheaper than the equivalent pc but can you get 500-5000 cheaper, generally no because apple doesn't do the type of volume discounting that Dell, HP & Lenovo do.
I also dont buy the argument that Macs are somehow fundamentally better than PCs for "Media" (Graphic Design, Video / Audio editing). I've not heard of a single professional media software package which is available for the mac but not the PC. The argument that "Graphics people know Mac OS" is not honestly a consideration.
Knowing is half the battle.
Or, you know, selection.There's almost no reason to buy a Wintel anymore, except for price.
For the record, BSD is a version of Unix.
I have a friend that has been using Final Cut Pro on his Mac G5 for a couple of years. He gave up on the Avid system because it was too slow. Also note that he is not a porn producer editing from his hospital bed.
I am not a graphic artist or desktop publisher but I do own a business which I have run with the help of Macs since 1987 when the pc peeps were running DOS. I am still using a piece of software from the early '90's and my computer is 4.5 years old and isn't about to be changed any time soon. The last OS I bought was $129.00 Canadian, a bargain considering the price for Vista. Note that every OS upgrade makes my computer faster. Also note that my computer has never needed to be repaired.
I am Microsoft free but that could change if Microsoft created anything that didn't suck. Not holding my breath tho--they have been around for over 20 years and never have.
You guys need to see this:
Windows Vista vs. Mac OS X