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    New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    Just breaking...


    It's inevitable -- no matter how much some might hate us, they cannot forever deny us equal treatment under the law. And while the NJ Supreme Court isn't exactly certain what to call a union of two men or two women, I call it a victory. As Margret Thatcher might say, "REJOICE!"

    Here's a copy of the decision:

    It's official (.pdf)

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/10/102506jerseyNo.htm

    Seems to be different from what I've read.
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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    It was just released 3 o clock eastern time.

    Ruling can be found here.
    http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/opi...me/a-68-05.pdf
    I am happy for this, but why couldn't it happen after the election

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    New Jersey recognizes same-sex unions

    TRENTON, New Jersey (AP) -- New Jersey's Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that same-sex couples are entitled to the same rights as heterosexual couples.

    But the court left it to hte legislature to determine whether the state will honor gay marriage or some other form of civil union.

    The case was brought by seven gay couples who say the state constitution allows them to marry. (Opinion -- pdfexternal link)

    New Jersey is one of only five U.S. states with neither a law nor a state constitutional amendment blocking same-sex marriage. As a result, the state is more likely than others to allow gays to wed, said advocacy groups on both sides.

    Only Massachusetts -- by virtue of a 2003 ruling from that state's top court -- allows gay marriages.

    Proponents and opponents from across the country are watching the case closely.

    "New Jersey is a stepping stone," said Matt Daniels, president of the Virginia-based Alliance for Marriage, a group pushing for an amendment to the federal Constitution to outlaw same-sex marriage. "It's not about New Jersey."

    From a practical standpoint, the Massachusetts court decision made little impact nationally because the state has a law barring out-of-state couples from wedding there if their marriages would not be recognized in their home states.

    New Jersey has no such law.

    People on both sides of the issue expect a victory for same-sex unions would make New Jersey a destination for gay couples from around the country who want to get married. Some of those couples could return home and sue to have their marriages recognized.

    Daniels said gay-rights advocates are already looking ahead to such lawsuits. "Their game, of course, is they figure all they need to do is execute this maneuver in a half-dozen states and they'll have the momentum," he said.

    David S. Buckel, the Lambda Legal lawyer who argued on behalf of the seven New Jersey couples, said he expects some couples would travel to the New Jersey to get married if his suit is successful. But, he said, "it won't be tidal."

    Buckel said that there have been relatively few such lawsuits filed in the U.S. by couples who went to Canada to exchange vows.

    And, he said, while many same-sex couples would prefer to be married, they are getting more legal protections for their relationships. Several states, including New Jersey, offer domestic partnerships or civil unions with some of the benefits of marriage. A growing number of employers are treating same-sex couples the same way they treat married couples.

    Cases similar to New Jersey's are pending in California, Connecticut, Iowa and Maryland.

    Conservatives watching the cases believe the best chance for gay marriage to be allowed would be in New Jersey, where the state Supreme Court has a history of extending civil rights protections.

    Gay marriage supporters have had a two-year losing streak, striking out in state courts in New York and Washington state and in ballot boxes in 15 states where constitutions have been amended to ban same-sex unions.
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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    365Gay jumped the gun. While the ruling don't legalize gay marriage, it says gays are entitled to the sames rights that straight get with marriage, and the legislature has 180 days to address the problem.

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    Looks like they just edited the story, I guess they caught the goof. hehe.

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    Its now up to the legislature what they are going to recognize it as, whether its a marriage or civil unions. Either way we are now entitled to the same rights as married couples!
    "Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself."
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    IMHO - This was the best possible outcome of this court case.

    Our "Compassionate Conservative" brethren love to denigrate:
    "Activist Judges who make laws, instead of merely interpreting them."
    The New Jersey Supreme Court interpreted the law and found it UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    Our "Compassionate Conservative" brethren love to proclaim:
    "Laws should be written by our elected officials."
    The new law WILL be written by elected officials.

    We got the ruling we wanted!


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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    Roland has a point... a lot of people sit out midterm elections because there is too much of an obsession in this country as to who is president; I'm certain the religious right, betrayed by the Republicans or not, will certainly go out and vote for their pandering shepherds wishing to lead them, and this country, straight to hell. The legislature is important; the NJ one has 180 days to address this problem---that makes this election pivotal for NJians on both sides of this debate.

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    Danno does that mean u are moving to NJ

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    How many House and Senate seats are the Republicans going to add to their current majority as a result of this? This was the October surprise Karl Rove was praying for. Wonder what this year's gay activist November 8 pity party is going to be like.

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    Quote Originally Posted by khushibagh View Post
    How many House and Senate seats are the Republicans going to add to their current majority as a result of this? This was the October surprise Karl Rove was praying for. Wonder what this year's gay activist November 8 pity party is going to be like.
    Why would that happen? The NJ decision is exactly in line with what Bush said he favors as an alternative to "marriage." Here's what he said during the 2004 campaign:


    27 Oct 04
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    WASHINGTON Some conservative groups expressed dismay Tuesday over President Bush's tolerance of state-sanctioned civil unions between gay people laws that would grant same-sex partners most or all the rights available to married couples.

    [B]"I don't think we should deny people rights to a civil union, a legal arrangement, if that's what a state chooses to do so," Bush said in an interview aired Tuesday on ABC. Bush acknowledged that his position put him at odds with the Republican platform, which opposes civil unions.

    "I view the definition of marriage different from legal arrangements that enable people to have rights," said Bush, who has pressed for a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage (search). "States ought to be able to have the right to pass laws that enable people to be able to have rights like others."

    (link to story)

    So, if the religious nuts want to declare a fatwa or engage in jihad, perhaps they should talk to Dear Leader Little Boots first...

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    "Although we cannot find that a fundamental right to same-sex marriage exists in this state, the unequal dispensation of rights and benefits to committed same-sex partners can no longer be tolerated under our state Constitution," Justice Barry T. Albin wrote for the four-member majority.

    I'm not really certain where I come down on this issue. That being said, I honestly do love the "absolute" quality of Justice Albin's statement.
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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    It's no longer puzzling why the right wing extremists want to assassinate federal judges, or stack the judicial bench with freedom hating judges, or why they are so obsessed with revamping the judiciary to conform with their Taliban-style view of the world -- not when a state judge can rattle the rooftops with a simple declarative sentence. I have no doubt that gays will someday be fully vested as equal citizens, equal in every way with every other American. Someday, the full succor of the US Constitution will embrace us as equal, and America will be a better place for that.

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    Well I guess I can get married now when I go back to visit my family.

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    I love NJ! I am going out to celebrate!!!

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    We should keep in mind that this decision was very close: 4 to 3.



    • 4 of the justices were appointed by a Republican governor, Christine Todd Whitman.


    • 3 of the justices were appointed by former Gov. James McGreevey, a Democrat who resigned in 2004 after acknowledging his own homosexuality.



    The minority opinion argued that same-sex couples are entitled to the label as well as the rights of marriage.


    It is interesting to note that the minority opinion (favoring full marriage rights for same-sex couples) was supported only by Republican appointees.

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    Re: New Jersey Becomes Second State to OK Gay Marriage!

    California will probably be the next state to approve marriage between members of the same sex. We already legal domestic partnerships with many rights of opposite sex partners. Most state forms have been changed to reflect married or domestic partners. Issurance companies most provide DP coverage. Most employers had extended that coverage prior to the law change. Registered DP's have visitation rights, right of survivorship whether or not a will is written, adoption rights, and now we can file joint income taxes in California.

    California is to date the only state to have approved marriage for same sex couples in both the Assembly and Senate. It was unfortunately vetoed by the governator.

    A lawsuit is schedule to be heard by the California Supreme Court soon. The Superior Court of California found that gays and lesbians were discriminated against. The Court of Appeals rejected that argument. The desenting judges voiced a strong opposition to the courts decision. It now moves to the Supreme Court.

    California was the first state in the nation to declare that interracial marriage would be legal in the state in 1947. The original state constition did not state marriage is only between a man and a women but two individuals. Prop 22 was passed years back to declare marriage to be between a man and a women.

    It looks like that law will be history with the pending Supreme Court decision. Public opinion is more for gay marriage than against. Domestic Partnership was a bold fist step. Domestic Partnerships may only be dissolved through Divorce court.

    Californians await the Supreme courts decision.

    The state has over 19,000 registered domestic partnerships.

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    Prudy, dearest, good post -- I LOVE all them facts and figures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by opinterph View Post
    We should keep in mind that this decision was very close: 4 to 3.


    • 4 of the justices were appointed by a Republican governor, Christine Todd Whitman.
    • 3 of the justices were appointed by former Gov. James McGreevey, a Democrat who resigned in 2004 after acknowledging his own homosexuality.


    The minority opinion argued that same-sex couples are entitled to the label as well as the rights of marriage.


    It is interesting to note that the minority opinion (favoring full marriage rights for same-sex couples) was supported only by Republican appointees.
    The majority opinion was the judicially responsible one,or we would have been another Massachusetts.It is NOT the role of the judicial branch to decide complex social issues.The court saw the injustice of the current situation,and said that it needed to be remedied by the legislature.The Massachusetts court redefined for itself the institution of marriage,making it appear they were promoting social policy.They left the legislature no options to codify anything but specifically marital status for gays,while this decision gives the responsibility of remedying the situation in a much more flexible manner to the New Jersey legislature.

    Anyway,the decision was the absolutely correct one,and in six months,New Jersey gay couples will by law be legally recognized as fully protected under law,whatever civil status is finally determined.That is worth celebrating....and I'll be ready to cheer on the boards as a proud New Jersey resident when it does.Work still needs to get done,and the religious right will protest and attack the decision as a blow to the family structure,but fuck them.Well done,New Jersey Supreme Court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sausageeater View Post
    The majority opinion was the judicially responsible one,or we would have been another Massachusetts.It is NOT the role of the judicial branch to decide complex social issues.The court saw the injustice of the current situation,and said that it needed to be remedied by the legislature.The Massachusetts court redefined for itself the institution of marriage,making it appear they were promoting social policy.They left the legislature no options to codify anything but specifically marital status for gays,while this decision gives the responsibility of remedying the situation in a much more flexible manner to the New Jersey legislature.

    Anyway,the decision was the absolutely correct one,and in six months,New Jersey gay couples will by law be legally recognized as fully protected under law,whatever civil status is finally determined.That is worth celebrating....and I'll be ready to cheer on the boards as a proud New Jersey resident when it does.Work still needs to get done,and the religious right will protest and attack the decision as a blow to the family structure,but fuck them.Well done,New Jersey Supreme Court.
    With all due respect, I still think it's a short-sighted decision in terms of legal legal recognition out of the state. With civil unions, there's no way another state is going to be legally required to recognize the union. At least with marriage, there would have been more standing to sue another state under the Full Faith and Credit Clause (although DOMA would have to be repealed first...the one thing I truly hated about the Clinton administration. Now THAT really screwed us!)

    I also hate the term "activist judge," especially in this case. The marriage laws of NJ do not make a distinction between opposite- and same-sex couples. The only thing it mentions is the ban on bigamous and incenuous marriages. Now, maybe there was a mention in the legislative history that it was supposed to only be opposite-sex (there could be...I'm just too lazy to look it up), but there's nothing explicitly stated in the statute so I don't think it's too far a stretch to include same-sex couples under the marriage definition.

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