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    Re: Obama considering run in '08

    Quote Originally Posted by RICBOUND2004 View Post
    I'm not arguing that Obama doesn't stand a chance because he hasn't been in public office long enough, he very well could win a general election; my argument stands that compared to a Sen. John McCain, Obama's credentials are nowhere near up to snuff.

    You're right, we've had some pretty bad choices that last few election cycles when it comes to presidential candidates. As a matter of fact the last time I can recall there being two legitimately qualified deserving candidates on the ballot was the Nixon/Kennedy 1960 election (I could also make an argument for 1964 but I'm still not too keen on LBJ and his "Great Society").

    Okay, I'm sure you know that there will never ever be a Presidential candidate "that actually walks his (or her, gotta be politically correct) walk". It's just not possible. This ain't The West Wing. And yes years are not the determining factor, but they do bolster a resume.

    I can't nor will I defend the fact that GWB didn't have much political experience himself in 2000. This is why I supported John McCain.

    And regarding your last question, I'm one of the rare Americans who tend to support Senators. McCain has my support (for now at least) in 2008. Sen. Goldwater also is a hero of mine. Had I been eligible to vote in '64, Goldwater would have had it (although it wouldn't have mattered much in the end).
    What's really sad (crazy) for me is that I whole-heartedly agree with your post here.

    When we begin lamenting the loss of Barry Goldwater, it goes to show us how far "conservatism" has strayed off course.



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    Re: Obama considering run in '08

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    You see only the color of people's skin. So far as I'm concerned, and as far as most normal people have expressed, they admire Obama because he has a compelling story to tell, not because he's black. It takes a real extremist to only see skin color, which is probably why there are no black Republicans in the House or Senate, and only a smattering in the executive branch. You should really get to know some people of color, chance1, it would probably help you stop engaging in the failed ways of racial stereotyping.
    Alfie - you're a joke - a bad joke

    don't even attempt to paint me - you're bad at it

    your admiration for Obama is w/o question - but Obama for President is pandering

    Go and try to paint with the racist brush - it's the way you and your ilk operate

    You're pathetic

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    Re: Obama considering run in '08

    Quote Originally Posted by ICO7 View Post
    Everyone that is in this administration, and seeing it to the end, should be made to leave Washington DC when their time in office is up. The woman has done a bad job and should not be rewarded with a promotion and a raise.
    your opinion IC - and u are welcome to it

    I think Condi has done an admirable job after a very slow start - and while I don't think she is quite ready for a Pres run, she laps Obama by miles. She has real responsibility - he is a celeb - perhaps he becomes more. But Obama for Pres? laughable

    And as for Bush, he has hired many minorities - despite not receiving much voter support in the black community

    But as usual, the JUB crowd will instead label him a racist - or say that Colin Powell, or Gonzalez or Rice are picks designed to curry favor, rather than by Bush's belief that they are best qualified

    He can't win - ever - on this board - make that bored

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