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    Texas Republican 2006 Party Platform/National Party Platform?

    Found this on youtube, something for everyone's consideration.

    Because it has been made public, the conservatives are convinced that it's made up and they're calling it, "Typical Liberal Hate."

    You decide:



    Here's the actual link to the 2006 Republican Party of Texas Platform.
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    Re: Texas Republican 2006 Party Platform/National Party Platform?

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    I love how this clip just lays out the facts as they are, as verified by the official Texas Republican't platform.

    I also get a kick out of the "cockroach effect" that hits these religious and political perverts on the right: they feel perfectly normal and comfortable writing this crap and scheming with their verminous cohorts when no one from the outside is observing, but once a ray of sunlight hits their hive, they go into full fucking back-peddling retreat. Cowardly? Craven? Dishonest? Yewbetcha and Dontchaknow! That's the very essence of modern wingnuttery.

    Of course, I could well be very wrong, but I think the gig is just about up for these fakers and kooks, I really do -- the beginning of the end was when they ghoulishly crawled into Mrs. Schiavo's death bed, and the first nail in their coffin was Bush's blunders in New Orleans. There will come a time when Republicans would sooner sidle-up to a sicko like former Congresswoman Foley than with the Taliban religious nuts, and that day is coming.

    Thanks for posting this, centex, and best of luck as the election approaches!
    Thank you.

    It's clear to me that not only can't I understand why anyone who's gay could support the current Republican party, I can't understand why Texans, or Americans can continue to support the Republican Party.

    I cannot think of any other group within this country that is as Un-American as that put forth by the 2006 Republican Party Platform. Outside of this country the Taliban comes to mind.

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    Re: Texas Republican 2006 Party Platform/National Party Platform?

    I consider myself to be pretty liberal, but I do agree with a few things mentioned in the clip.

    The tax system is too much of a burden... no other country, even the Social-Democratic states of Europe do not have a system which requires its citizens to fill out hours of paperwork for the privilege of paying the government.

    I also think that several departments of the Federal government are superfluous. Like, I'm not exactly sure what the department of education does... or the department of energy. As for education, i'd much rather have Federal taxes decrease and state taxes increase in order to pay for better-quality local education.

    Other than simplifying the tax code and streamlining some of the more mundane functions of government, my agreement with the Republican Party platform ends there.

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    Re: Texas Republican 2006 Party Platform/National Party Platform?

    In comparison, here's a link to the 2006 Texas Democratic Party Platform, which as a precinct chair/delegate I helped to create!

    2006 Texas Democratic Pary Platform

    For examply here's the party's position on Social Security:

    Social Security



    Texas Democrats believe we must keep the promise of Social Security strong and certain for those who have worked and contributed to the system most of their lives. Social Security should continue to be the foundation of income security for working Americans. We believe all Americans should have access to the Social Security system, including public employees. Private savings accounts and other pension programs should be additions to the guaranteed Social Security benefit, not a substitute for any portion of it.
    We oppose privatization of the Social Security program and consider the use of taxpayer dollars as capital to invest in the stock market as a threat to the income security of working Americans. Texas Democrats believe privatization of social security is fiscally irresponsible. We oppose Republican federal budget plans to spend down and undermine the Social Security Trust Fund, including proposals to carve out private savings accounts, which would drain trillions of dollars from the Social Security system.


    Retirement Security
    Millions of workers have invested in public or private pensions to secure their retirement income. Texas Democrats support measures to provide strong and effective legal protections to secure the investments of workers in public or private pensions to honor the principle that a lifetime of honest work should be rewarded with adequate retirement income.We believe:
    • a participant in a pension or retirement program should have legal protection for the full amount to which they are entitled if such accounts or corporate pensions lose their funding or are dismantled due to financial improprieties, insolvency or reorganization;
    • companies filing for bankruptcy or encountering legal problems should have funds automatically frozen or set aside to fund the pension plan in place;
    • time limits must be in place to allow the expedient transfer of pensioners’ funds to a new account or directly to the pensioner within the confines of IRS tax regulations;
    • measures should be taken to improve corporate governance to enhance confidence of all stakeholders in the private enterprise system; and
    • the state should act to ensure the solvency of the Teacher retirement System.
    Though not perfect by any stretch, I would say it's a much more appealing Platform than that of the Republican Taliban.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seapuppy View Post
    Or end the Department of Education, which since it's inception, and boot-licking of teachers unions, has presided over the gutting and decline of the worlds greatest experiment in public education and reduced American high school students to the butt of European and late night talk show jokes on education.
    Remember Howard Jarvis (I hope to spit on his grave before I die) and Proposition 13? The single greatest blow struck against our educational system in its entire history.

    The far right wing of our country entered into a silent agreement with the far left wing to dilute our curricula because neither side liked what was being taught, or how it was being taught. It is easy to demonize the teachers' unions, but we have no idea how things might have turned out if they had been given their head instead of being obstructed at every step by reactionary neo-luddites. Our textbooks range from pathetic to absurd, not because of teachers' unions, but because of the local political action of extreme conservatives and the cowardice of textbook writers and publishers.

    Move from the ponzi scheme of Social Security, which WILL fail in my lifetime, and move to the sane IRA type programs of investment being adopted by other countries.
    Social Security is projected to falter some, not to fail substantially, let alone entirely. This is a problem of management, not of principle.

    Secure our borders for REAL, not just rethorically, with an ACTUAL security fence, which, by the way, has proven to be successful beyond all critisism of it, in California.
    Well, you are certainly not familiar with the desert, are you? The success in California has been at the expense of those of us further east. Even the best of fences is of little use without people watching it, and if you have the people, you need little more than a marker. (which, BTW, is lacking, too, in much of Arizona and New Mexico.) Oddly, the border patrol is also seriously lacking in understanding of the desert, and the Minutemen are a laughing stock to old desert rats like me.

    I took a drive down HWY 9 recently, as I do regularly to pick up prescriptions in Palomas and do a little shopping, marguerita in hand, at La Tienda Rosa. (This time we also had a little picnic at Pancho Villa State Park in Columbus, it was quite a nice time) Minutemen had stationed themselves prominantly along the road, which paralells the border for some 50 miles. One of the vehicles they had out was a rocket launcher, for heaven's sake! And I could have snuck a small army by right under their noses without their even noticing.

    So, let's say we get a good security fence built from San Diego to El Paso.

    What do we do about the Rio Grande? If we try to fence it off, we cut animal life off from what is often the only source or water in 50 miles or more. There goes all the deer hunting, there go all the deer hunting ranches, in S. Texas.

    It may be that rivers can be fenced off in much of the country, I wouldn't know, but I do know that it simply cannot be done on the Rio Grande.

    Again, we need feet on the ground, not super fences.

    Secure a living wage? Where in the heck in the Constitution is that my governments responibility?
    Read your history. Governments have in fact normally considered such things their responsiblity, the differences lie in the ways they have chosen to address the issue.

    I assume by leaving Iraq to the terrorrist?
    We brought the terrorists to Iraq.

    Thankfully, they are only a minor part of the mix. Our problem in Iraq is with the conflicting nationalistic dreams of different factions within that artificial "nation's" borders.



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    Centex, thanks for this. General and Turtle, I agree with your views. However, what we are taught in school, and what the reality of this country is makes most of us give up on the system. I was really disapointed when the republicans won the election in 2000. I was amazed that they were reelected in 2004. It proves that americans are idiots and deserve what they vote for. Mindless sheep voting for who the church tells them to? A sad time for america.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark1111 View Post
    Centex, thanks for this. General and Turtle, I agree with your views. However, what we are taught in school, and what the reality of this country is makes most of us give up on the system. I was really disapointed when the republicans won the election in 2000. I was amazed that they were reelected in 2004. It proves that americans are idiots and deserve what they vote for. Mindless sheep voting for who the church tells them to? A sad time for america.
    The Democrats won both the 2000 and 2004 elections; Republicans stole both elections through various forms of chicanery in Florida (2000) and Ohio (2004). This is well documented. The conclusion is not that Americans are idiots, who don't know what they're doing in the voting booth, but that they are too passive and sheeplike to care very deeply about their elections' results. In the United States, in stark contrast to many other countries, the voters allow elections to be stolen, and shrug and yawn and flip the TV remote over to the round-the-clock media feeding frenzy over the latest guy who didn't kill JonBenet Ramsey. Americans aren't stupid, but they do allow themselves to be lulled to sleep by the mainstream media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapuppy View Post
    Not sure where you got your information, but it is incredibly wrong. I am neither Log Cabin, nor Republican, but a simple Google search will yeild many articles covering the very active participation of Log Cabin on the floor of the Republican National Convention in 2004. They have never been exluded from participation. They just don't get their way very often.

    http://members.aol.com/wockner/gop2004.html

    Most of these stories wind up being apocryphal....
    With all due respect.

    What the fuck are you?

    You claimed in your original post to this thread that you don't support everything in the 2006 Republican Party platform, at least as the Texas Republican Party submitted it, then proceeded to defend it.



    Then you go of on what I call half-baked claims against Social Security using the same lame ass arguments that I used years ago against it.

    If you'll study the history of how SS came about, you'll discover that it was never intended to ba a "retirement program." My quotes not yours.

    Somewhere a a decade or so ago, I believe that it was under Bush 41, the capital being paid into the SS fund was "dipped into" for other projects/ear marks.

    Now the solvency of SS is being questioned because of what?

    WHO GIVES A SHIT? It's now become just one of many "single issues."

    It's one of many problems that our country faces, and no one within the Republican Party is dealing with it!

    Republicans refuse to fund public education, then when public education goes into the toilet say, "We need vouchers," or we need "accountability" and impose bs like "No Child Left Behind."

    We'll impose a tax to pay for public parks (in Texas), then siphon off 78% of that funding into the "general fund" then when it's pointed out that the state parks are in disrepair say, "We need to sell of State lands for oil/gas leases to make our parks more profitable, or close those parks and sell it to private investors. Do you honestly believe that "shit happens" or are you willing to acknowledge that "something is a foot at the Circle K?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by centexfarmer View Post
    We'll impose a tax to pay for public parks (in Texas), then siphon off 78% of that funding into the "general fund" then when it's pointed out that the state parks are in disrepair say, "We need to sell of State lands for oil/gas leases to make our parks more profitable, or close those parks and sell it to private investors. Do you honestly believe that "shit happens" or are you willing to acknowledge that "something is a foot at the Circle K?"
    Are you fucking kidding me? That is way beyond criminal! Things like this are what make me lose faith in this country.

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    I don't know what to say.

    It is clear that the lies and deception truly are the lifeblood of BOTH parties. Falling for this ad mockup is paramount to believing that 20 yo that posted the dirty bomb threat. Everyone went gaga because some jackass figued out where to connect his lunacy to the internet. The truth is when it comes to money or love neither parties and no politicians are in it for the people. I really like how some true Republican platform initiatives that have gained much press in the last 6 years were incorporated with maniacal hate regime type goals. Kind of leading to to plausability of belief. AT least the dems are learning how to add a little outrage to the truth making it somewhat believeable. The repubblicans have been doing it for the last 12 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark1111 View Post
    Are you fucking kidding me? That is way beyond criminal! Things like this are what make me lose faith in this country.
    I wish that I was. It all started when George W. Bush became Governor of Texas. This is one of many examples that I can site regarding the dismantling of Texas/America by the Republican Party for the express benefit of those with the most money.

    PRIVATIZING TEXAS PUBLIC PARKS -- PUBLIC LAND, PRIVATE PROFIT

    You cannot lose faith in your country!

    Your Country IS NOT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!
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