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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Representative Studds engaged in sex with a 17 year old male page. A page Mr. Studds provided alcohol to and then took sexual advantage of. Mr. Studds did not have the decency to resign his seat, nor did the Congress have the balls to throw his ass out. Mr. Studds recieved a censure, of course he turned his back on the Congress as it was read. The Democrats gave Mr. Studds three standing ovations after this shameful display.

    Not a role model for gay folks, I'm afraid. Now he gets to answer to a higher power.

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    It was legal and consensual, jack, and you know it. Unlike, say, Republican't Foley and Speaker Dennis "Toots" Hastert, that perverted bastert!
    Legal and consentual. Hmmm. 16 or 17, I guess it makes a difference. Again a Dem that is not held to account for his misdeads.

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    RIP, and thanks, fucking Republicans.
    And this is a Republican problem??

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    RIP, and thanks, fucking Republicans.

    Just what does this mean? Oh, I understand the mentality from which the last phrase proceeds, but precisely what justifies the phrase? My recall is that the Democrats voted for censure.

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    It was legal and consensual, jack, and you know it. Unlike, say, Republican't Foley and Speaker Dennis "Toots" Hastert, that perverted bastert!

    So, it's OK for a sitting Congressman to fuck a liquored up 17 year old? The Congressmen are acting "In Loco Parentis", in place of the parents. They have a responsibility to protect these kids, not to be taking advantage of them.

    Foley was a scumbag. He quit and was repudiated by his party. Studds was an even bigger scumbag. He was unrepentent and embraced by his party as a hero. The morons in his district even re-elected him a number of times.

    Maybe Congressman should start fucking each other. At least we'd get a break from getting fucked by them!

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    I agree with Jackoroe. What Studds did was wrong, if not worse than Foley. The only thing that has been confirmed with Foley is he had sex with a 21 year-old former page after developing a relationship with him at the age of 18. Studds liquored up a current Page and then had sex with him and somehow got away with it..

    A double standard indeed.

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Bottom line is bringing up Studds like he's some kind of hero is pretty "off". Alfie - your post says "In 1983, Studds acknowledged his homosexuality after a former Congressional page revealed he'd had a relationship with Studds a decade earlier."

    So if I understand this correctly. He acknowledges being gay after being caught - not so "brave". And he had sex with a minor. So how is he a hero?

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    He is a hero to Alpo because his first name is Democrat. The same blind trust that ended in all these Republican lawbreakers. The good ole gen is just a party line stomper.It is too bad he can't come up with his own viewpoint.
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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    So if he isn't a hero. Then why did you post this story? Then you sarcastically thank the Republicans for his affair or were you thanking them for the blood clot? Seriously the GOP has the majority but they don't prees a button and drop retired Pedo's do they? Wait maybe the page was actually Foley in highschool? The plot thickens.
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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    Now chance, must I scape you off the ceiling again? Calm down -- let go and let God.

    There. Now chance, where did I say Studds was my hero? Could you please provide a quote? Now, fact is, chance, his sins were inconsiderable in comparison to your true party's criminal negligence, but I don't expect you to admit that. After all, you still claim to be a Democrat.
    scape me off the ceiling? you are off Alfie - OFF

    you posted about Studds why? cause you think he was someone to admire? look up to? a reasonable assumption. Given your "fucking republicans" ending

    So perhaps you should get off the ceiling

    As for "Republicans vs. Studds" - and a comparion of their "sins" - didn't know that was an option. Pretty strange comparison General - I think perhaps you've been in too many battles.

    To Mattie Mich - thanks for the clarification on the Studds situation

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    Um, yeah. Of course, I don't expect our dirty birds from the extremist GOP to comprehend "consensual" and "legal," what with them all being helium-legged to begin with.
    I hadn't heard that anything had been established that wasn't consensual or legal.
    Are you smearing (again), or is there something new?

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    For all we know, Studds was Foley's inspiration.
    And yes, getting someone liquored up in order to have sex is worse than anything Foley has done; in most places that's rape, no different than drugging someone (well, it IS drugging!) or knocking someone unconscious first. Use of any drug to lower another person's resistance is rape -- end of story.
    And anyone who will hold up a rapist as an example is pretty despicable.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Quote Originally Posted by MattieMich View Post
    Why do you guys keep saying he got the guy drunk and had sex with him? They had an ongoing relationship. It was not just a one time thing. According to the Washington Post, when the scandal broke the former page stood by Studds during the press conference and said it was consensual.
    My bad....

    The first thing I checked on-line echoed what I'd read here. Being on dial-up, which takes like three minutes to even load the first page in a place like Wikipedia or a major newspaper, I didn't look further -- oops.

    I'd forgotten the deal about the kid standing beside him! That makes a big difference.

    So maybe he's worthy of note -- but the jibe at the Publicans was rude and uncalled for.

    "Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

    --Jonathan Rauch, Salon Magazine, March 13, 2000

    *the number is now forty

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    Re: First Gay Congressman Dead: RIP Gerry Studds

    Damn.

    I should've been a page, I knew it!


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