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    Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    of course he knows next to no english and will chatter at me insesantly about what every word of dialogue means

    I wonder where he got the big mouth from

    no one else in our family has it

    He has been feeling homesick for europe and I thought it would cheer him up

    has anyone seen it yet? does it have a euro feel to it, or is it an american view of the royalty? Hellen Mirren is one of my favorite actresses so i know i will like it no matter what.

    is it the kind of film that a non english speaking person would enjoy?

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    It comes out on general release here in France next week.

    Obviously as an English gentleman living in France I shall certainly go to see it.

    Would appreciate hearing your opinions; not a full scale cinema critic, just if you enjoyed it or not.
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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    Yes, it looks like it will be a fun one. I want to see that as well. It has gotten some good reviews. I'm waiting for it to come out in a theater that is a little closer. I didn't want to drive to Hollywood to see it. Come on Pasadena!

    Thank goodness the definition of marriage does change over time. Women were originally thought of as property and marriage was originally about an exchange of property.

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    Being a Helen Mirren fan, I can't wait to see it. The reviews have been outstanding. I'm hoping for another Oscar nominatiion for Mirren.

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    Andreus...
    Your Bros. hasn't posted much on here lately has he??? Tell him not to worry about the English - it would be good to hear from him!!!
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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    Think you'll both like it - it's one of Helen Mirren's best performances

    Definitely filmed from a British point of view, BTW - not like that bloomin' awful Charles and Diana rubbish the US did a while back

    It is quite visual, so your bro will be able to follow the jist of it, but perhaps not all. It's very 'dry' at times - very British! You will definitely like it - if you get peace to catch all the dialogue that is

    Let us know how you get on...
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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    Helen Mirren is excellent, but the film is like a not very good television mockumentary.

    It doesn't reveal anything significant that hasn't been previously reported and a number of the characters are just caricatures. I thought it might touch on why people are still interested in the idea of royalty or whether the change in the Queen's attitude was real or lasting, etc. But it doesn't go much below the surface.

    I think the critical reviews overrate it because of Mirren's performance. Most people will probably find it pretty boring.

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    Quote Originally Posted by spensed2 View Post
    I think the critical reviews overrate it because of Mirren's performance. Most people will probably find it pretty boring.
    Now that is what is worrying me. Will it be a waste of my time going to see it? Or is her performance worth it in itself?
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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    I've read two reviews--- and they both were good! It's on my must see list.
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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    Pesonally I thought Mirren's performance stole the show, and it far outshines the others.

    There's no way for anyone to really know what HM thought about any of the events covered by the film, but Mirren does lend a touching emotional take to a woman who's first thought is of duty at every occasion.

    I particularly liked her scene with the PM after the death of Diana. Her delayed return to London was always, in my opinion, perfectly understandable. The furore she endured by not immediately screaming back to Buck House was a gross insensitivity, and I believe Mirren's scenes may make many think for the first time at how wrong it was for them to make the demands they did at the time.

    It's pure supposition, but Mirren does it with great style (Even if she DID remind me of Maureen Lipman at times )
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    I thought the film was fantastic - Helen Mirren stole the show, but some of the minor supporting roles were tremendously cast too...

    And it confirmed for me why I am a Republican!

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    well it was a great movie

    Mirren's impressive tallents were more than up for the challenge of playing an emotionally void woman. I went to harvard square to see it, a hard crowd to please by any standard, and at the end of the movie the entire room applauded.

    it is a dry film, and since the main character is the queen of england, i dont see how it couldnt be. Mirrens performance was so subtle that she had me welling up as she shed just one tear for the dead stag... a symbolic nod to the hunt that Diana faced as princess and the queens understanding of what royals sacrifice to serve their people and that she was forced to openly acnowledge her adversary, the princess of wales was more popular in death than she was as a living queen.

    I can honestly say there were times that she had me totally along for the ride, and i forgot that it was mirren and not the queen herself.

    i was charmed by the woman who played the queen mum, but her performance wasn't as exacting and recreative of her subject as mirren's was.

    one point of particular intrigue to me was the juxtaposition of the royal men around her, basically a collection of buffoons, to the PM and his staff, the over acomplishing support that drug her, kicking and screaming at times,(well she did raise an eyebrow in comtempt one or twice when they caused her tea to go cold.. a veritable explosion of emotion for E2) through her worst decisions. They served as her anchors, one in tradition, and one in common sense, as she tried to find her footing alone between them with only her mother as a real confidant and guide.

    Although there weren't any new revelations in the plot, Mirrens performance made me feel that i understood the queens need for order in precedence and in history, and the meaning of her stoic nature as Queen to boot.

    I would suggest that anyone who doesn't need flashy effects to enjoy a good script and performance to see the film.

    p.s. Mitri loved it too

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    Oh, you mean the movie. I thought you were referring to some other JUBBER in Boston.

    Mirren was interviewed by NPR last week. It is even more intriguing when one learns she was raised by extremely anti-royalist parents. That brings something extra to her performance, I'm sure.

    I'm not so sure Elizabeth's response to Diana was jealousy as much as confoundment (sorry). I don't think the Queen ever anticipated or comprehended the depth of devotion that modern people invest in physical beauty rather than hard work. And, let there be no mistake about it, if Diana had looked like Jane Hathaway or Eleanor Roosevelt, there would never have been a storied princess.

    Diana's death was unfortunate, but I can't for the life of me see anything in her history that elevated her above other billionaire philanthropists other than her looks. There were plenty of actions that she took which made her a victim of herself in addition to being a victim of the Windsors.

    Thank you for your recommendation of the movie. I can hardly wait.

    As for your brother, I've been giving him jabbering lessons by phone while you were at work. Glad to hear he's coming along nicely.

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    the film absolutely captured her bewilderment as she grappled with the knowledge that her people didnt understand and respect her fifty years of service and propriety.

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    I believe history will ultimately marvel at her stabilizing dedication to England and rank her high in the listing of modern monarchs who actually served their people rather than just played regent.

    The difference between her and Princess Margaret is stupefying, and engrossing.

    I think we will see the outpouring at her death even greater than when her mother passed, and throughout the Commonwealth (and I DON'T mean Massachusetts.)

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    I use the term "the Queen" to refer to someone that I used to know who was quite..uhm..queeny/flamy (and it's an inside joke and only a few people know who I mean - off-JUB of course)

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    I had a good time with The Dreu. The cinema made mcuh laughter seeing the queen with the television of her bedrooms. The dead deers rendered me very sad, as it made HRM Elisabeth.

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    I haven't seen the movie, but it does seem like one which is worthy of the effort. Thanks for you recommendation.

    And WELCOME to JUB, Mitri T - and WELCOME TO THE U.S.A.!!

    Don't worry about your language skills - look around and you'll see some native English speakers who speak and write FAR worse than you!

    I hope you enjoy being a part of the JUB community, and I hope you post often..

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    I thought you were talking about Madonna lol

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    Re: Taking my Brother to see The Queen

    I saw it today. YEAH! It is one of the best films of the year!

    Thank goodness the definition of marriage does change over time. Women were originally thought of as property and marriage was originally about an exchange of property.

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