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    Air America Goes Belly Up!

    Liberal syndicated talk show, Air America is going through a major re-organization to include bankruptcy. Five employees are being let go. I didn't know they actually had five employees to let go!

    So why has this happened? Are the Moon Bat Left ideas so unpalatable to the American public? I've listened and it really is quite depressing. They have nothing nice to say about this country. Or, are they just really abysmal business people?

    Cheer up, there's still NPR!

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/...ica-bankruptcy

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    It's all about the marketing. They never established a base of listeners, and couldn't sell advertising.

    Start-ups fail all the time. Usually undercapitalization and poor marketing are to blame. I suspect that ultimately that is what caused Air America to fail.

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    I don't think AAR had a problem with ratings. THey're steadly increased when they started a couple of years ago and introduced their live online streaming. THe problem is that they were paying too much for some of their hosts, like Al Franken and then Jerry Springer. They should've concentrated on more on getting more liberal hosts instead of trying to make things "centered".

    Far as I know there was alot of anger directed at AAR from us liberals because they fired Malloy. I fucking loved that program and they go and cancel him so unprofessionally. I think it has somthing to do with whose running the network as opposed to the radio station itself.

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    Re: Air America Goes Belly Up!

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    Air America just couldn't attrack the audience numbers they needed.

    Right wingers need to be told what to think, who to hate, who to vote for, so talk radio really works for the audience's authoritarian needs. Progressives and moderates think for themselves and don't need that sort of stuff.
    So called progressives and moderates need to learn to spell, too. I assume you meant 'attract' and not 'attrack'. Although, it could be a Freudian slip. I know perfection is important to you.

    Could it be that America rejects the message of Air America? Just saying.

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    I never thought it was a good idea. I listened to it once, on the first day it was on the air, as I drove to NYC. On that day they seemed to be trying to imitate conservative radio, kind of a bizzaro world reflection of Bill O'Reilly. It just didn't work.

    There is no liberal ideology, liberals are not struggling to justify fondly held myths and prejudices, we don't need to propagandize ourselves, they can even handle contrary opinions. What "liberals" want is the facts and the truth so that they can make up their own mind, they don't need 24/7 thought reinforcement.

    Radio is not a good medium for thoughtful, rational people. It is no accident that the right favors "hot" or low participation media like radio and written polemics, very little thought required.

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    Re: Air America Goes Belly Up!

    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    Air America just couldn't attract the audience numbers they needed.

    Right wingers need to be told what to think, who to hate, who to vote for, so talk radio really works for the audience's authoritarian needs. Progressives and moderates think for themselves and don't need that sort of stuff.
    Air America was akin to a preacher preaching to the choir.

    We don't need to be told what to think, who to hate, who to vote for, so listening, though enjoyable at times, they weren't truly winning any converts. Just preaching to the choir.

    I love hearing the truth being preached, and having the Devil shamed!

    Air America will be missed.

    BTW, NPR is much more objective than Air America ever dreamed of being.

    But, like Air America, they never advocate what to think, who to hate, or who to vote for. They let those listening make those choices for themselves. I guess it's one of the reasons why its funding keeps ending up on the Republican's chopping block.
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    I agree NPR is really good, and if you want a european perspective which will naturally be more to the left of, well at least FOX, try BBC Radio or Deutsche Welle (English Service) both of which can be listened to online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanman34 View Post
    Al says...he needs a good snuggle with Mr.Bear........


    sorry jack...back on topic....

    Now we know what progressives and moderates are thinking, don't we? High class stuff, Al Franken. Just another diaper donning democrat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BiGuy View Post
    The problem is that they were paying too much for some of their hosts, like Al Franken and then Jerry Springer.
    Yeah... Jerry Springer... what were they thinking???

    That wasn't the only problem... I believe there was a concerted effort to drive Air America off the map.

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    Radio? If it ain't playing country, I ain't listening.

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    I love your excuses-liberals don't have an ideology,liberals don't need to be told what to think or who to hate-this is sop smug,self-righteous,ivory tower nonsense-and radio was a great medium,before the age of television you had to actually imagine the words,see in your mind's eye.Leftist ideology is as authoritarian and certain of itself as any right wing mirror system.What is liberal?What is moderate?What is conservative?What is socialist?What is a progressive vs.a liberal?What is a classical conservative over a libertarian?What is a neo-conservative as opposed to a classic conservative?You want to make simplistic declarations and ease your morally and intellectually superior minds ?Well,I want to make you exercise them-like it or not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    Air America just couldn't attrack the audience numbers they needed.

    Right wingers need to be told what to think, who to hate, who to vote for, so talk radio really works for the audience's authoritarian needs. Progressives and moderates think for themselves and don't need that sort of stuff.
    I think you're on to something here Alfie.

    Just can't put my finger on it.

    Is the above sourced? Is this a medical or psychological eval? I really must insist on a citing or 2 - club rules you know

    Just maybe "left wingers" (think hockey to the left of the centerman) don't like to listen to other left wingers. They just like to TALK. Why listen and learn to other points of view when you can instead spew your own.

    Or perhaps dems and the left get their fill with:
    ABC News
    CBS News
    NBC News
    MSNBC
    CNN

    vs. the "right wingers" who have just Fox News

    Funny how Fox ratings destroy all the others in cable. When there aren't that many right wingers around? Maybe some moderates and dems watch Fox? Nah - that's impossible. Cause moderates think for themselves.

    Or maybe the folks at Air America just put on an awful show with lots of spewing (think Alfie JUB posting).

    Nah it must be that right wingers need to be told what to think.

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    [quote=General_Alfie;1768158]No, it didn't work, mostly. There was too much faked anger and it came across as shrill.

    Not to dismiss the value of anger, because anger and rage are what keeps right wing radio alive. I mean, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity listeners get their little wee-wee sort of upright when they hear their own petty, bitter disappointments with life repeated back at them -- the love it.

    They love hearing simple solutions to imaginary problems, they need so much to believe, to believe that somewhere, somewhere in this vast universe, there are other stupid, gullible, unhappy and bitter people, people just like them: resentful, cruel, bigoted, homophobic, evil, stupid, uneducated.


    Temper, temper, alf. Don't go postal on us now. Your aging arteries and vessels are not what they used to be.
    If you don't like what Rush or Sean have to say, don't listen to them. Simple, eh?
    Why are the extremists on the left so angry all the time? Why must they always resort to playground name calling? I mean, it's so beneath normal adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    But chance1, darling, I've asked you repeatedly and forever to post cites -- you've yet to comply. Seems a bit absurd for a person such as yourself to ask for the very things you simply will not provide.



    No, dear, you're behind in the news, again. The word is "Authoritarian," not right-winger, though there's a darned good chance a right-winger is.



    Or maybe they are scattered and wild-eyed. Maybe they are passive-aggressive. Maybe they spew extremist talkingpoints. (Think chance1 JUB postings.)



    There 'ya go!
    Alfie - I thought you were better than this

    My "citing" reference was an ode to you - I figured you would find it ironic - I guess you didn't get it - perhaps you didn't "listen"

    "Right winger" - well I quoted you - how quickly you forget. Must be tough when you're posting 24/7 - to remember what you wrote what an hour ago?

    and to copy my "think . . . . . . " - weak again

    I guess with the # of posts you spew, quality control is difficult

    Perhaps YOU should host a show on Air America - "The General Speaks" - you could do a ranking of JUB posters, have them on - and you could criticize everyone who doesn't agree with you - and talk about yourself in the third person - sounds really good - the advertisers would line up.

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    Well Sausage, Mcluhan would disagree with you about radio, but I better keep on topic. Anyway, talk radio ain't "The Shadow".

    I refuse to bite on your question. Liberal/Conservative is just common parlance, we have to use those words to communicate, but they don't really have a concrete meaning any more.

    There really hasn't been a liberal movement since the 80's and the "conservatives" presently in power have little to do with the classic conservative or even the conservatives of the Goldwater era. (if that was anera)

    Liberals are the non-conservatives and conservatives are the non-liberals, the country is so polarized we define ourselves by who we aren't. Liberal/Conservatives are defined issue to issue, day by day, state by state, red/blue election by election. The idea that US politics are driven by principle or creed is not realistic.

    I know conservatives don't like things that are not pinned down, ambiguous, but they are out of luck again, no hard definition covers the multitude of sinners that infest today's politics.

    Moderate? That's someone standing in the middle of the Jersey Turnpike.

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    Its true what they say. For some reason, liberal radio doesn't work. *shrugs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanman34 View Post
    I'm surprised it was not sooner.Who wants to listen to all that anger?

    Now...jack...if you want to laugh your boxers off...Listen to Loony Lefty...(Lynn Samuels) on Sirius Radio...cost a few bucks....(but makes great entertainment....

    I used to listen to Lynn Samuels all the time in radio when she was on WABC. I even called her a couple of times. I think she was a really nice person. I don't miss her enough to pay for Sirius, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sausageeater View Post
    Leftist ideology is as authoritarian and certain of itself as any right wing mirror system.
    There *is* truth to this (being perfectly honest)... but is it nearly as bad as the reich wingers? NOT AT ALL. Not at all. There are liberals that *absolutely drive me nuts*, I'll tell you, and there are extremists on both side, but the average liberal will always, always, always be more open to listen than the average conservative.

    And if conservatives were right about more than 12% of what they spout, perhaps they'd have reason to be 'certain of themselves' as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ds_writr View Post
    Only two points since no one replies much to anything I say anyway.

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    1.) Bill O'Reilly's take on why Air America died (is dying) is because, (as he said on his mess of a t.v. show this evening) is that he knew from the beginning that it would fail since America (as in "Americans") don't like to hear 24/7 how awful the country is - and that is precisely what the liberal lefties do.

    He said Americans don't like and can't stand to be told all the time how miserable their own country is all the time.
    ds - don't despair - here's my reply

    What's the phrase "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while"

    that reference is for Bill O, not you as I believe he is right on here

    Ever meet someone - they're real good looking - you wanna like them - you really do - but they start talking - whining really - "this is bad" - "that's bad" - they're the negatoids - who can listen for any extended period of time - wo what do you do?

    you tune them out
    you turn them off
    you get sick of them (despite their good looks) - but quick

    I say bingo - O'Reilly has it right

    Clearly America was not ready for Air America

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    Well, so much for the argument that liberals don't need radio to tell them what to think. The new Greenstone group (also known as Yenta Central) is going after Limbaugh's audience. If the left is so secure in their beliefs and there is no need to preach to the choir, why bother at all?

    All this group of screaming mimi's is going to do is turn more people off than ever before. The left is imploding.

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    The left is not imploding. It simply can't. Imploding implies that an object caves in upon itself, and the American left has lacked for nearly 40 years now the sort of stable center that would allow for the creation of anything like a black hole. We've long been far more fractured and ad hoc than the republican right simply because we have no universal rallying cry (like money or propinquity) to galvanize supporters. It's much easier to tease people with the promises of riches or to segregate them from others by demonizing dissenting voices as immoral, profane, and ungodly than it is to convince disparate groups of people that their personal advancement depends upon their ability to temporarily bracket their personal concerns for the sake of more distant advances (like demanding a living wage for service industry and retail workers or insuring that indigent families get access to health care and education).

    Some of the people who have responded to this thread are absolutely correct that Air America's biggest failure was to create a cartoon version of the sort of ludicrous inanities that people like Laura Schlessinger, Rush Limbaugh, and Don Imus piss forth daily on the radio. Al Franken, as much as I appreciate his sincerity, should have been far more straight-forward and far less a clown in order to sell his point of view. But Air America itself should not have depended as heavily as it has upon someone like Franken to put forward a counterweight to conservative oversimplifications and jingoist bullshitting if only because all that clowning diminshes the seriousness of the problems at hand for anyone who does not have a stock portfolio or even a healthy 401K plan.

    Let's also not be so stupid as to identify the American left with the well being of Air America Radio. People like Amy Goodman and Greg Pallast are still ready and willing to muckrake and shame conservatives along with the sleazy underlings of our corporatocracy whenever they can. An American leftist media infrastructure is also coming to fruition through the work of numerous bloggers and watchdog websites like Media Matters, the Progressive States network, and the Center for American Progress among others. Leftist and liberal voices are beginning to take the same sort of Maoist approach to media that the republican right (and its parasitic evangelical offspring) has been bleeding dry for 20 years.

    Sorry to disappoint anyone, but with or without Air America, the battle rages on.

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    Um no. Air America isn't going anywhere -- even if they do decide to file. In fact, they just released the new line up of talent. They've switched up a few time slots and got rid of a few radio personalities. Unfortunately Malloy did get a bum deal -- but they've also yanked Springer too (thankfully).

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    In the course of all this discussion of Air America versus the clear channel thinking of the right, I forgot to ask: what the fuck is a "Moon Bat idea"? What in hell is that supposed to mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homoaffectional View Post
    And if conservatives were right about more than 12% of what they spout, perhaps they'd have reason to be 'certain of themselves' as well...
    This reminded me of the line in Al Franken's book, Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot: "If you ask me, the man who has the easiest job in America is Rush Limbaugh's fact checker."

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    hmmm.... so I am confused. According to my count, i have heard on 6 seperate occations that air america had gone bankrupt and was closing. But it still exists. but i am that this time, THIS TIME is definately the one! This time it is actually true and not just a load of bullcrap, right? so next week if I turn on my radio and air america is still there, all of you who are saying it is bankrupting will go cliff diving in the grand canyon, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackoroe View Post
    Liberal syndicated talk show, Air America is going through a major re-organization to include bankruptcy. Five employees are being let go. I didn't know they actually had five employees to let go!

    So why has this happened? Are the Moon Bat Left ideas so unpalatable to the American public? I've listened and it really is quite depressing. They have nothing nice to say about this country. Or, are they just really abysmal business people?

    Cheer up, there's still NPR!

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/...ica-bankruptcy
    Hahaha....
    (Maaan, you just don't care, do you?)
    You just looove to get dirty don't you?
    I've got to hand it to you. You came into the belly of the beast (this forum) and stirred up fire directly.

    Some of us have been wounded for far less.
    Haha. More power to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iman View Post
    I never thought it was a good idea. I listened to it once, on the first day it was on the air, as I drove to NYC. On that day they seemed to be trying to imitate conservative radio, kind of a bizzaro world reflection of Bill O'Reilly. It just didn't work.

    There is no liberal ideology, liberals are not struggling to justify fondly held myths and prejudices, we don't need to propagandize ourselves, they can even handle contrary opinions. What "liberals" want is the facts and the truth so that they can make up their own mind, they don't need 24/7 thought reinforcement.

    Radio is not a good medium for thoughtful, rational people. It is no accident that the right favors "hot" or low participation media like radio and written polemics, very little thought required.
    Now that's hilarious!
    For linerals, all contrary opinion is "hate speech".

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    Now that's hilarious!
    For linerals, all contrary opinion is "hate speech".
    linerals???

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    linerals???
    Haha...I was worked up with laughter; what can I say?

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    I stopped listening to Air America because it bored me listening to essentially the same viewpoint all the time. I like to hear both sides of an argument because it forces both sides to defend their positions.

    Any radio or tv show dependent on advertising dollars is going to have to be sensationalistic to some extent, and, generally speaking, the more sensational, the more successful. Clearly, right wingers enjoy listening to someone repeat inflammatory talking points with lots of spittle and derogatory catchphrases about opponents. Seems that liberals are less attracted to rage and nastiness. Right wing radio calls those with opposing views unpatriotic and un-American. Fascists love that kind of rhetoric but it just won't play with liberals.

    And what the hell is a Moon Bat, some derogatory term coined right wing radio?! Maybe Rush came up with it while he was on oxycontin?

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    Rush may be a right-wing drug abusing wingnut, but he sure is a rich right-wing drug abusing wingnut!

    And presumably it's his ratings that have made him rich. Something Air America was never able to attain. It does make you wonder though - was the programming that poor that they couldn't reach their target audience, or does the target audience not listen to talk radio? I wonder what kind of marketing survey they did before they even started up. Whoever did it should be fired(which is a mute point if they go under)!

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    10.15.2006 The Fall Of Air America and A Bold Prediction For The Future (15 comments )

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    Disclosure: I have never had any business relationship with Air America, do not have any such relationship today, know various financial players who might participate in its future, and readers should consider that I reserve the right to possibly have some future business interest.
    The Hosts: I have written hyper-critically in the past about the management, ownership and corporate governance of Air America and have made suggestions publicly and privately that obviously were not taken up.


    However, these criticisms have never been directed at the hosts, many of whom do a fine job, some of whom are outstanding, all of whom are collectively well above the average of political talk radio. Some of my own favorites include Randi Rhodes, Al Franken (who has received some criticism I personally believe is unfair), Laura Flanders, Thom Hartmann, Sam Seder, Mark Riley (the best morning show in the biz), Rachel Maddow, Robert Kennedy Jr. and Pap. Anyone who has not heard them, should check them out on the dail.
    Next, regarding the departure of Mike Malloy. Mike and I have had some differences, but the manner of his departure only proves that those who call themselves liberal can be just as unprofessional, self-destructive and rude as those who call themselves conservative.
    Mike is a bit further to the left that I am, but his voice is a voice that deserves to be heard, and his stature in the industry alone, should have demanded far more respectful and more professional treatment than he received, which reflected larger problems with the way Air America was run.
    I am very confident that this note will find its way to the bankruptcy judge through one means or another. And I intend to write to the judge directly to offer some views at length, either as part of a financial group taking a role, or independently offering an informed opinion and suggestions going forward.
    For now, some summary points:
    1. It is an absolute disgrace that going into an historic national election Air America has been mired in management and ownership myopia, self-indulgence and ulterior agendas. Air America should have played a far more powerful role, and this far more powerful role should have been good for business as well as good for America.
    2. I believe in progressive talk radio and I absolutely predict that when this is over, Air America or its successor will emerge in a far more powerful and strong position than ever. To use Warren Buffett's term, the numbers I have seen publicly, dramatically understate the intrinsic value of what Air America should be worth as a going concern, with the proper business plan, management and governance.
    3. Absolutely no new money should be offered or committed under any circumstances, beyond keeping the hosts on the air, without aggressive and extreme reforms of corporate governance based on commonly accepted, highly professional and totally transparent "governors" and "rules of governance".
    4. Absolutely no new money should be offered or committed under any circumstances, beyond keeping the hosts on the air, without a first rate management team with clear CEO leadership with a proven track record, clear marketing and public relations expertise and plans led by executives with experience and records of success.
    5. Absolutely no new money should be offered or committed under any circumstances, beyond keeping the hosts on the air, without a clear, visionary, aggressive, comprehensive and transparent business plan that integrates progressive talk radio and its audience, with other elements of the progressive communities in win-win entertainment, transactional and financial relationships.
    6. Specifically, for progressive talk radio to be a truly viable and successful business model and going concern, there must be strong integration between the audio world of radio progressives and the internet world of on-line progressives. These win-win relationships would increase the audience and eyeball power of both progressive radio and the progessive blogs and create mutually beneficial revenue streams for both.
    7. Never again should hosts be expected to run around like beggars with tin cups seeking their own sources of sponsorship and capital. This is demeaning, absurd, unprofessional and ridiculous. Air America must reach out to a larger audience, and have both internal and vendor capacities to attract advertisors and sponsors. The host's job is to host; while the management's job is to manage.
    8. There should be a comprehensive corporate culture of reaching out to potential large new audiences such as Hispanic, African American, labor, progressive religious denominations and military families receptive to new ideas and new sources of radio support. With these new and larger audiences, there should be corrolary new win-win relationships with their media, including African American and Hispanic television and radio through joint projects and audience cross- promotion and cross-marketing.
    There is downside and upside to Chapter 11 and the Debtor-in-Possession formula. The downside is that it is slow and cumbersome at its worst, the upside is that the Court will try in good faith to do the right thing, from a professional point of view, and those with the most egregious ulterior motives and agendas are, I predict, in for a rude awakening while those with the most effective and viable new business plans will have the advantage. What has happened is a shame, but what is done, is done. I predict the future of progressive radio is greater than ever, based on the strategies mentioned here, and would welcome any and all public comment and, I suspect, private reactions.



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    Air America just couldn't attrack the audience numbers they needed.

    Right wingers need to be told what to think, who to hate, who to vote for, so talk radio really works for the audience's authoritarian needs. Progressives and moderates think for themselves and don't need that sort of stuff.
    SO thats why they can't come up with one clear voice. The party of the stubborn jack ass. ALways wanting to go different directions.


    Air AMerica failed cause it was nothing more than hate speech and whining. People get that from their jobs or their kids, they can't shut those down the meal ticket or the family so the radio station has to change.

    Side note: Air America wasn't a upstart. Sorrows(sic) paid for its existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ipippini View Post
    hmmm.... so I am confused. According to my count, i have heard on 6 seperate occations that air america had gone bankrupt and was closing. But it still exists. but i am that this time, THIS TIME is definately the one! This time it is actually true and not just a load of bullcrap, right? so next week if I turn on my radio and air america is still there, all of you who are saying it is bankrupting will go cliff diving in the grand canyon, correct?
    It has been in the tank that many times.

    George Soros keeps it afloat each time.

    BTW United just emerged from bankruptcy. Bankrupt isn't closed in America. It is protection from collection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    Now, now, enough with the derogatory comments and so-called "Value judgements." It's just these kinds of statements that make our right-wing patriots get 'tho up 'thet, why, 'tho up 'thet that they start threads titled, "Why You Are Not Posting in Politics?"

    It's unfair to suggest Mr. Limbaugh is a drug user, much less a drug addict. I think he's an UltraPatriot and HE LOVES AMERICA! Mr. Limbaugh enjoys a wide audience with our Right Wing Gay Patriots and I just don't think it's wise to offend them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mazda3boi View Post
    Air AMerica failed cause it was nothing more than hate speech and whining.
    If that were true, Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly, Hannity and (Michael, not Dan) Savage would be unemployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OtterJoq View Post
    If that were true, Limbaugh, Coulter, O'Reilly, Hannity and (Michael, not Dan) Savage would be unemployed.
    EXACTLY!!! Thanks for calling them on their hypocrisy.

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    EXACTLY!!! Thanks for calling them on their hypocrisy.
    You're quite welcome, but to be honest, today's GOP almost makes it impossible to NOT expose their hypocrisy.

    Thank God the polls show that America is finally wising up. The numbers in MN look great; the RNC has all but abandoned its support of Mark Kennedy, once considered an "easy win."

    The Grand Old Pedophiles' house of cards is crumbling fast...and I couldn't be more amused.

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    Would you rather listen to whining or attacking for hours on end?

    Lefties whine about how bad the righties are fucking up the country.

    Righties attack and mock lefties for thinking differently than they do.

    Both sides tend to do alot of bitching and moaning actually, which is why I stay away from talk radio.

    "Just by being out you're doing your part. It's like recycling. You're doing your part for the environment if you recycle; you're doing your part for the gay movement if you're out."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJFlame
    Would you rather listen to whining or attacking for hours on end?

    Righties attack and mock lefties for thinking differently than they do.

    Both sides tend to do alot of bitching and moaning actually, which is why I stay away from talk radio.

    Perhaps. Sometimes it does even get too much for me, and I only tune in occassionally. I would personally be happy to endorse the shutting down of *all* talk radio if the wingnuts across the nation would give up their hours of propaganda, courtesy of fat-ass drug addict Rush Limbaugh, closet gay Michael Savage, perpetually annoying Sean Hannity, and the rest... good luck with that, though.

    Unless a progressive course is charted for both the executive and legislative branches of the federal government (not to mention the judicial branch), I could see Air America being simply a predecessor to another liberal radio network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    Air America just couldn't attrack the audience numbers they needed.

    Right wingers need to be told what to think, who to hate, who to vote for, so talk radio really works for the audience's authoritarian needs. Progressives and moderates think for themselves and don't need that sort of stuff.

    Gen_A.......very well said thanks for the insightful thought

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    Air America founders launch new liberal talk-radio network

    Just in time for the election! I'm glad someone stepped up to the plate, and just in time... glad to see Mike's back... they're going to need him...

    The cofounders of Air America Radio have launched a new liberal talk network, the Phoenix-based Nova M Radio. The Air America affiliate in Phoenix was bought out by a religious broadcasting company in March, which led affiliate directors to seek alternative means to broadcasting their content. Nova M Radio officially formed in April as a local operation, and now its directors are setting their sights on the rest of the nation by recruiting big-name talent.

    Mike Malloy, whose popular program on Air America ended in August, will debut the revamped The Mike Malloy Show on October 30 live from 9 p.m. to midnight Eastern time on all Nova M affiliates. The program will also stream live on the channel's Web site, www.novamradio.com.

    Internationally renowned pollster John Zogby will also join the Nova M stable with his hour-long show The Pulse of the Nation, where he will poll a variety of crucial social, political, and cultural issues. In addition to polling, interviews with special guests and audience participation will round out the show's content.

    Nova M CEO and chairman Michael "Dr. Mike" Newcomb will also host a daily chatfest from 9 a.m. until noon. Peter Collins, a veteran San Francisco–based radio personality, will host his own talk-radio show from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. weekdays.

    In light of Air America's recent filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, Nova M has also secured Howard Dean presidential campaign fund-raiser Joe Trippi and his consulting firm to help the new company establish a firm base of financial contributors and supporters.


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    In light of Air America's recent filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, Nova M has also secured Howard Dean presidential campaign fund-raiser Joe Trippi and his consulting firm to help the new company establish a firm base of financial contributors and supporters.
    Seems to me that a plan for advertisers & sponsors, along with a business plan and attempt at commercial viability would be a better way to go.

    But to each their own.

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    Air America is still on my XM "Radio ToGo." I enjoy their programming. I just wish that Jerry Springer were still there. Rachael Maddow is probably the most intelligent being I have heard on any radio.

    I rely on NPR "Morning Edition" for all of my news. They do a superior job in my opinion.

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    The reality is no one gives a crap

    Air America has no on-air talent, no listeners, no advertisers and now no financial backing

    Never really got off the ground

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    Re: Air America Goes Belly Up!

    Quote Originally Posted by vanman34 View Post
    Liberals are so gloomy and boring.



    and right wingers are so nasty and lacking for...






    what was that...















    oh yeah... a conscience... morals... ethics. Those sort of things.


    (Plus, they're pretty gloomy themselves. Oh, terrorists are going to blow us all up! But not because George Bush doesn't take advantage of what a terrorist attack does to his poll #'s... nosiree!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by General_Alfie View Post
    When two-thirds of Americans believe Bush to be a lousy president and nearly sixty percent believe him to be a liar, there is no end to the ways of saying they disapprove of his incompetence. I suspect the national din arising from the ballot boxes in two weeks will drive home that point even more profoundly.



    You mean like Rush "Blue Pills" Limbaugh's show, a circus of lies and distortions? The show where Rush calls Senator Clinton "Hitlery" and women in general are termed "Feminazis?" Oh, yeah that's a regular laugh riot.



    Just not very good at imitating the raging lunatics and social misfits of right wing Hate Radio.

    Yeah your right Alpo. Lets bring out Art Bell a true liberal voice of moderation. Maybe next we can drag out the hate everything church. You know "God Hates FAgs" those lunatics. Oh Oh isn't that the ACLU in their back pocket. Damn what a team.
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    how about NPR...has anyone mentioned them? i know they bore a lotta people but they're great and have a left slant without being disagreeable like the limbaugh's of the world. and how about the fact that while right wing radio is all over the place, i've heard that the listenership is overall quite small...limbaugh used to brag about 20 million listeners...yeah, right! stern used to always say that limbaugh's actual audience was about a million on 600 stations...that limbaugh bumped it way, way up cause he counted people that may have listened once in a rating period. and foxnews...their average rating during the day is 800,000 and at night a million...in a country of 300 million. let's not act like we've got a revoultion here.
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    alfie, i'm gonna ask again how a respectable kook of the right calls himself "boi"...i don't think i got an answer last time.
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    thanks ico7...i was hestiant about using howard stern as my source, LOL, even tho i think he's pretty damn honest. but thanks for the back up.
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