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    President Garfield.

    is there any evidence that he was gay?

    OK it is not current events... but it IS politics

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    Re: President Garfield.

    Sure if you like spoofs.

    My google search turned this up:

    http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/James_Abram_Garfield

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    Re: President Garfield.

    OK thanks. I'm just a brit. I just wondered No offence meant.

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    Re: President Garfield.

    Well the man was married and had 8 kids... so I guess he didn't have too many reservations dipping into that well, if you know what I mean. That or his wife was a slut and those were the milkman's children.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A...eld#Early_life

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    Re: President Garfield.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICO7 View Post
    Well the man was married and had 8 kids... so I guess he didn't have too many reservations dipping into that well, if you know what I mean. That or his wife was a slut and those were the milkman's children.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A...eld#Early_life
    LOL

    Not likely:

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/firstladies/lg20.html

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jg20.html
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    Re: President Garfield.

    You may be thinking of James Buchanan. Buchanan has been widely believed to be the worst President in US history ---- prior to Bush, of course.

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    Re: President Garfield.

    Quote Originally Posted by iman View Post
    You may be thinking of James Buchanan. Buchanan has been widely believed to be the worst President in US history ---- prior to Bush, of course.
    He was the original "First Lady," if you will.






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    Re: President Garfield.

    Wasn't Abe Lincoln the tall drink of water with a penchant for civil rights and whatever it was that his best buddy had snaking down the left leg of his britches?


    Personally, I always thought the homo was Teddy Roosevelt, the man's man's President: Bulging long johns by the fire, outsdoorsy hiking pals, lust for tall timbers, stallion-rider, wrasslin' bears, man-eating tigers, big meals of sausages, gentle and caring papa (all very closeted bisexual dad stuff).


    evidence:


    ^ Theodore Roosevelt, surrounded by (as in, 'in the middle of') other outdoorsmen next to a large, exposed hole. Note that none are with their wives during this special camping trip.



    That all said , I did find this on GARFIELD (all hung up on cock, it seems)


    http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywo...9/famleade.htm


    JAMES A. GARFIELD (1831-1881)
    The last of the 'log cabin presidents', Garfield was born in Orange, Ohio on Nov. 19, 1831. When he turned seventeen, he began working at the docks of the Ohio canal. With the money he earned from work, he began attending a school run by the Disciples of Christ, a strict religious sect. He repented of his life on the Canal, an area overrun with brothels, and he became a preacher.
    By that time, Garfield had become overly concerned about masturbation. At the Seminary he pored over books like Orson Fowler's Amativeness: Embracing the Evils and Remedies of Excessive and Perverted Sexuality, Including Warning and Advice to the Married and Single, a tract that utterly condemned masturbation. Garfield fervently wished that every town had ten thousand copies of the book at their disposal.
    In another book Garfield read, The Young Man, Reverend Todd, the book's author, stated that nine out of ten boys indulged in masturbation. Supposedly it doomed the boy to poverty and insanity, as well as fueling homosexual desires, according to the "word" of the times. Todd believed you could tell an excessive masturbator by their sunken eyes, bloodless countenance, and unwillingness to make eye contact.
    Garfield admitted that he frequently masturbated, and suffered all the symptoms that were attributed to masturbation. He tried total abstinence, and frequently took cold showers to take his mind off. He later built his own shower bath at Hiram College.
    During this period, Garfield took an inordinate interest in homosexuality. He read what the Bible had to say, and also read Plutarch, Virgil, and Seneca. It was a common belief at the time that the excessive masturbation that Garfield was addicted to was a sign of homosexuality.
    More than one source cites that Garfield may have had a juvenile homosexual infatuation with a young man named Oliver B. Stone. Throughout his life, his diary records that Garfield often felt unsure of his masculinity. As a boy, he was often uneasy around women, something that one of his teachers at school helped to put an end to. Garfield would go on to have many sexual affairs with women, turning his sexual interest in masturbation towards sexual interest in women. He became engaged to Mary Hubbell, but as marriage time grew closer he backed out and tried to claim that they had never been engaged to begin with.
    Another woman became his fiancee, but the impending nuptials sent him into a black depression. He married Lecretia Rudolph but he was unhappy and took frequent business trips. Then the Civil War came and he joined the Union Army. He later had numerous affairs, and soon after being elected president, there were rumors that he had had sex with a prostitute in New Orleans.
    Four months into his term, he was shot by a disgruntled office seeker in the Baltimore and Potomac train depot in Washington, DC. He died on September 19, 1881.

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    Re: President Garfield.

    1. Do not trust anything on Wikipedia. Not one thing on it is scholarly, it is a pointless source.

    2. Don't trust random internet sites that cater to specific aspects of people's lives.

    What you should do, to find out the personal information on Presidents, is find official biographies and read their memoirs/journals. Especially long-dead Presidents, as you cannot get proper sources on things like what ds_writr just posted. I can personally (and I have never studied Garfield) debunk several things that article says. For instance, the New Orleans prostitute controversy was actually falsified by a woman who was trying to get money out of Garfield.

    I seriously doubt Garfield was gay. I seriously doubt any of our Presidents were gay. The James Buchanan myth is perpetuated by the fact that he was a "bachelor"... this likely had to do with the fact that the man was an imbecile and socially inept, not because he was gay.

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    Re: President Garfield.

    ^ My thought on this would be that the challenge was to find out from where the RUMORS might have originated.

    I usually think that unless there is a hand-written letter by or pics of Garfield involved in homosexual activity, none of us will ever know for certain what some men were thinking (or what they were doing with dicks).

    Conversely, of course, that would also mean that none of us could "seriously doubt any of our Presidents were gay" either. There is no physical trail of evidence of homosexuality among most men who partake in it even today.

    But, hell, George Washington could have been an army latrine peeper. As he commanded his troops, who knows what the General may have been doing behind some tree somewhere? We'll simply never know for sure.

    I simply tried to secure a site which could be cause for such rumors.



    That's all.

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    Re: President Garfield.

    Quote Originally Posted by ds_writr View Post
    ^ My thoughtthere is a hand-written letter by or pics of Garfield
    One of the only things I remember learning about this president is that he was ambidextrous. To demonstrate, he would listen to spoken english and write out what he heard in latin with one hand and in greek with the other, simultaneously. A great parlor trick, and having nothing to do with being gay, I know. But fascinating anyway.

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    Re: President Garfield.

    Personally, I always thought the homo was Teddy Roosevelt, the man's man's President: Bulging long johns by the fire, outsdoorsy hiking pals, lust for tall timbers, stallion-rider, wrasslin' bears, man-eating tigers, big meals of sausages, gentle and caring papa (all very closeted bisexual dad stuff).
    I don't know if he was gay or not, but he is definitely my kind of person (bixexual dad stuff).

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