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    Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    This is an opinion piece which I would have posted in the UK terror thread had it been open. I strongly believe the views in this article..

    Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    August 11, 2006
    by Kate Mucci

    It seems that some "terrorist plot" has been foiled. All that "extra security" to which travelers have been subjected is working.

    Or so they would have us believe.

    But if you sit back from a calm, rational place, can you believe that there really was a terror plot, using... liquids? Can you believe that it makes us safer in any way to prevent any of us from carrying hairspray, hand lotion or lipstick onto an airplane?

    Regarding the "plot", well, I'm not buying it. Every other terror plot that has been exposed since and including 911 has had "false flag" written all over it, and with Bush in big trouble for encouraging Israel to continue murdering innocent civilians in Lebanon and Palestinian, this smells like the old "bait and switch" trick again.

    Bush and Blair are best buddies. Cheney has disappeared again. Mid-term elections are coming up. Lieberman lost this week.

    It's no surprise that this plot was uncovered now. It's all about timing.

    How better to drum up support for illegal and immoral activities than by again invoking the fear of attacks to scare the sheeple into submission?

    So what are you going to do? Wring your hands in fear as you stand in lines four hours long?

    Why should you throw away a bottle of baby's milk? You shouldn't. Don't. Don't fall for their terror tactics and DON'T FLY!

    Call your travel agents or the airlines, and demand your money back for flights you've booked, and even if you haven't made reservations, call them and tell them you're not going to as long as this nonsense is in place. Put these co-conspirators in the war against freedom on notice that we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more and we're not going to fly as long as these ludicrous "security measures" are in place.

    When the airplanes are flying at 20 per cent capacity or less, and they have to cut back on the number of flights and therefore the amount of fuel being consumed, the airlines and oil companies will make such a fuss that this nonsense about dumping your liquids will be stopped. And while you're at it, tell them you're NOT going to take your shoes off anymore. And you're not going to bare your baby's bottom because there might be something hidden in his diaper.

    All of those precautions are not about making you safer. They're all about power and making people feel vulnerable and helpless. Don't let them take away your power.

    While you've got them on the line, tell the airline representatives about 9/11. Tell them you know that the flights that supposedly hit the trade towers were likely remote controlled, and that NORAD stood down. Tell them that no plane hit the Pentagon, and ask them if they saw any plane parts on the news footage. Make them listen to you. Keep calling. Mess up their reservations systems.

    We only have our voices. Use them. Call in to talk shows. Especially the Right Wing numbnuts. Put your brave suits on and armor up, because you will get blasted by those who don't want to hear the truth. But you can defeat the propaganda of fear with your own quiet insistence on getting the facts out there.

    Get your facts in before they cut you off. Tell them how the criminal elements in control of major western governments have carried out terror attacks and deliberately manufactured fake alerts for political purposes. Tell them that in 2002, then White House press secretary Ari Fleischer told the Washington Times that terror alerts were issued "as a result of all the controversy that took place last week," referring to political heat bestowed on President Bush when 9/11 prior knowledge evidence first surfaced.

    This is no different. Any time the government's in trouble, there is some kind of fake terror alert. Tell the right wing listeners about it! Call in to liberal talk show hosts that still believe Osama bin Laden was behind 911. Clue them into the false flag operations.

    But most important, STOP FLYING! Unless you have a life and death matter, or your livelihood depends on it, you don't need to fly. Disneyland can wait until next year. While you're at it, call the vacation destinations and tell them you won't be visiting because of the nonsense with flying. If enough of us do this, we can stop the madness. There will be such a hue and cry from Disney and Magic Mountain and all the other tourist traps that the government will have to back down.

    If we are to retain the freedoms we have, and regain the ones we've lost, we all must say, "No way." Stick by it, and stick together. There are more of us than there are of them.

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    Kate Mucci is co-host and producer of Out There Television, a weekly one-hour broadcast program airing throughout North America, Europe and The U.K. and worldwide on the web. See the website at www.outtheretv.com

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    Oh, dear ... more ravings...

    While you've got them on the line, tell the airline representatives about 9/11. Tell them you know that the flights that supposedly hit the trade towers were likely remote controlled, and that NORAD stood down. Tell them that no plane hit the Pentagon, and ask them if they saw any plane parts on the news footage. Make them listen to you. Keep calling. Mess up their reservations systems.
    Airplanes, believe it or not, don't weigh all that much ... even the pretty big ones. It has something to do with getting them off the ground, what with gravity, and all that. The Pentagon wall, on the other hand, weighed substantially more, what with all the stone, the cement, the steel, and what not it was composed of. I've seen the exact weight figures for both the plane and the wall; they're out there for anyone who cares to find them. Suffice it to say, the wall overwhelmingly wins.

    I'm not sure what this lady was expecting to see ... random parts of the plane scattered over the lawn, like it hit and bounced back off or something? Or did she expect to see a perfect outline of the plane, wings outspread, as it cut through the wall like butter? In any case, they did find the plane parts ... what was left of them, but it's more convenient for her rant if she ignores that fact.

    If she is so sure that the plane never hit the Pentagon -- and she more than halfway suggests that the WTC towers were not hit by planes -- I wonder just where she thinks the people who were on all of those planes have been for the past 5 or so years, and why none of them have surfaced?

    But they're probably having so much fun on that island, playing with Elvis, and Marilyn, and James Dean, and JFK that they just can't be bothered to come home.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    Well she works for the right tv channel Out There Television.

    She really is out there.....somewhere, lol.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    Oh sure, and miss out on all my lecturing dates. Are we not to drive a car on the highway next?

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    I am an airline representative, and I cringe every time I see some crazed tirade such as this.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    The woman must be insane.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    Have we experienced an upswing in terrorist posts in this forum lately or is it just my imagination? Of what value is this posting? What does this woman want done in terms of airplane security - nothing? Does she have any suggestions or does she believe that 9/11 and the other incidents were all a hoax? This is just ludicrous.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    Thank you, PlazaPeej, for giving us yet another conspiracist, opinionated piece-of-trash editorial.

    If our incompetent government had prevented 9/11, this would have been the same woman who said, "Can you even believe these 'terrorists' would hijack planes and crash them into buildings!? Inconceivable!"

    ..oh wait. She did say that (something about remote controlled air planes lol). She believes 9/11 was orchestrated by the government for a deliberate war in the Middle-East to establish an Empire hegemony over the world with an American flag in every Iranian home and with live feeds of "American Idol" in Tibet.

    Why do you post these things? Do you really believe them?

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    Kate (Mucci) writes books, articles and screenplays.


    OMG! I LOVE "news" sites which consist of half opinion and half ...U.F.O.


    They had on the lady whose daughter lived with the girl who was an alien-human hybrid! Isn't that cool?

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    i hate planes i wont fly

    the terror scares are probably designed to destroy the economy of usa because bush hates us anyway-but i do hate planes

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    if we must remove our shoes,
    the terrorists will have truely won

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    Its really pretty simple, if you don't like the rules then don't fucking fly. I could give a shit less if I can't bring certain things. If you MUST have it send it in an overnight package or you can fly private. You can use our Citation X but its like $4k an hr.

    I can't stand people that bitch about security measures when they're only doing it to protect us.
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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    For the record, you CAN take all of those things onto a plane. You just have to keep them in your checked luggage. You can't take them in your carry-on bag. Is that really that big of an inconvenience? Do you NEED hairspray while you're flying? I don't think so.
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    yes. I love all these liquids everyone needs to keep handy in the overhead bin.

    a flight attendant can serve you water if you're about to pass out from dehydration.

    the lighter fluid? the baby oils? the jellies? the Gotti Boys hair gels?

    I mean, really, I think Charles Limbergh was able to cross the Atlantic without the big bottle of Lube.

    So you masturbate in the WC aboard a flight without any creams.

    Which does make me wonder: have they shut off the water inside the restrooms aboard planes?

    I mean, I know a toilet must flush and you got to be rather quick to get a handful of that water. But those little sinks? What would stop a terrorist from using that water (definitely a fluid) once in-flight.

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    Thanks DS. Now someone in the government is going to see this and they are going to take out the toilets and make us pee into an airlock outside the plane and give us wet wipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin View Post
    Thanks DS. Now someone in the government is going to see this and they are going to take out the toilets and make us pee into an airlock outside the plane and give us wet wipes.

    I can see it now:

    TWA DEPENDS

    flight attendant: "Can I get you a head-set? A pillow? An adult diaper. sir?"


    and talk about 236 people all screaming, "When are we going to get there?"


    and YET (oh the horror of all of this), I wonder if they will screen passenger bladders before boarding?

    stay with me for a second here


    could not a terrorist drink down a 64, not make an 84 oz Big Gulp at the terminal snacks counter and THEN board a flight.

    he could then sneak into a WC and not even need toilet or non-potable sink water. he could just PISS into a container and voila, have his necessary fluid.




    this is terrible.

    it may soon become unpatriot to PEE.
    and person hopping from foot to foot will be added to the profiling list for an extra screening (but not a pat down as surely they couldn't handle it)

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    I'd feel a lot safer if people who believed all that refused to fly...

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    I hope Kate Mucci never flies again. One less idiot I might find myself next to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ds_writr View Post
    I can see it now:

    TWA DEPENDS

    flight attendant: "Can I get you a head-set? A pillow? An adult diaper. sir?"


    and talk about 236 people all screaming, "When are we going to get there?"


    and YET (oh the horror of all of this), I wonder if they will screen passenger bladders before boarding?

    stay with me for a second here


    could not a terrorist drink down a 64, not make an 84 oz Big Gulp at the terminal snacks counter and THEN board a flight.

    he could then sneak into a WC and not even need toilet or non-potable sink water. he could just PISS into a container and voila, have his necessary fluid.




    this is terrible.

    it may soon become unpatriot to PEE.
    and person hopping from foot to foot will be added to the profiling list for an extra screening (but not a pat down as surely they couldn't handle it)
    thats great.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    Also for the record, it isn't the actual liquids themselves that people are worried about. No one is afraid of water. What they're afraid of is that it might not really be water in the water bottle you're carrying onto to the plane. The plan was to detonate explosives using such devices.

    I really wish people would get the facts before getting so ridiculously upset over MINOR inconveniences. Stop fucking whining, take off your shoes, and don't forget to put your hairspray in your suitcase.
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    I am a pilot...I fly for fun and for business...If you cannot stand the rules...then take a bus or a train! Simple as that!

    My company has a private plane...I hardly ever go anywhere long distance by commercial aircraft anymore. It is also much safer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance1826 View Post
    I am a pilot...I fly for fun and for business...If you cannot stand the rules...then take a bus or a train! Simple as that!

    My company has a private plane...I hardly ever go anywhere long distance by commercial aircraft anymore. It is also much safer!
    I'm soon to be a pilot myself and I'm pretty annoyed with all the lunacy surrounding day to day airport security. If they want real airline security they should just give us all sedatives, strip us of our clothes, search our body cavities and then pack us into crates and send us on the next FEDEX plane out of town. However, I doubt many will be clamouring for that idea.

    I grow tired with all this annoying, reactionary security when vigilance is our best defense. We live now in a dangerous world and thus a violent end is inevitable for many. If we aim for zero terrorist fatalities we'll end up prisoners of our own security. I tell you, all we can do is be watchful so that if our citizens are killed during an act of terror we can say that we did EVERYTHING within reason and within our power to prevent such a tragedy. In the end, this is all we are really capable of doing.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    I don't recall airfares being as expensive as now (probably fuel related).
    The passenger screenings are a major hassle, but better safe than sorry.
    To me flight attendants have never been as rude and indifferent as now.
    However, I shall continue to fly because it's faster and reasonably safe.
    But most of all, I refuse to let the terrorists acheive their goal of terrorizing us to the degree that we deny ourselves the pleasure of travelling and change our lifestyles to accomodate them. If show them that their actions are working, they'll only expand their techniques to other areas as well.

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    Re: Stop the Madness. Refuse to Fly

    Nitroglycerin is a liquid. I wonder what would happen if there was nitroglycerin in some shampoo somehow.
    Probably get on the news, doncha think?

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