Thanks, I think I'll skip it and if anything happens read the spoilers online lol.
Thanks, I think I'll skip it and if anything happens read the spoilers online lol.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
How is that even an issue with two mass-teleporters?
^ my thoughts exactly. didnt pixie and magik teleport the entire population of atlantis halfway across the globe like it was no big deal? not countig rogue (and possibly hope and legion) who could be used as additional teleporters.
to be fair, if you start thinking like that, it invalidates almost every superhero story.
So I got this week's comics Uncanny improved slightly but only. Still reminded me of a Fraction issue. Daken and X-Factor rocked as usual excellent writing and storytelling. Generation Hope had a very good twist let's just say out of all the new takes on powers I think Primal's is the best also a nice twist at the end. I'm not sure though how long it can keep me gripped though.
Liking that IA are looking into Sara in Witchblade. I just wish I can get the back issues of the Artifacts I've missed.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
Oh FFS we are getting Wolverine and the X-Men issue 1 in October and Uncanny in November.
Really Marvel! Don't get me wrong I like Jason Aaron writing Wolverine but seriously I can understand why they chose him to split against Cyclopse but this means he's in the following books.
X-Men
Wolverine and the X-Men
Uncanny X-Force
Wolverine
Wolverine The Best There is (If it survives)
Astonishing ( again if it survives they are going to issue something on it).
Avengers
New Avengers
Moon Knight ( I know its Moon Knight's personality disorder but still).
Probably guest spots in Daken and X-23
Seriously want to smack the Marvel Arcitects lets just have a Marvel New U with Spiderman, Wolverine and a few others that are being milked to death. Sorry end of rant.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
Yeah, I think Wolverine might be the favourite character of the current Marvel Editor in Chief so now we all have to hear about him all the time. I mean, why is he the major opponent in schism? He's hardly known for a political agenda. That's what made Civil War so cool.
Hey, did you read the latest issue of X-men Legacy?
I'm dying to talk about it but we don't seem to have a spoiler warning button on this site.
^ A Legacy fan too? I would love to talk about Legacy with somebody who isn't bitching about Rogneto.
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I was really hoping to see more of a Cyclops/Storm or Cyke/Prof division on the team. I just don't see why anyone in their right mind would follow Wolverine willingly. Granted, if it were 80's Claremont Wolverine, I could see differently, but he's written far too inconsistenly so its difficult to take it seriously.
I guess we'll wait and see
schism prologue is starting to get ob my nuts. the first issue was nice, but now its just tedious. not a great way to start a crossover.
Sorry about the necromancy, but...
Whereas the rest of the post was cool, this was a glaring issue. If you mean by "widely praised" that Batwoman was "openly derided as an obvious publicity ploy". then yes, you're right. If you meant that she was a popular character because of her sexuality, then no, as there was a lot of backlash at the time. Whereas the series may have been critically praised, it had nothing to do with Batwoman....
Also, Extrano was considered a serious character by DC, and not just a parody of Dr. Strange. DC was trying to bring a number of its comics into the "Modern Era" at the time, and The New Guardians was seen as a symbolic way of doing that. Of course, it didn't help that most of the characters had some sort of stereotypical ethnic tie (such as a Japanese man who could control technology and an Australian aborigine with ties to the Dreamtime). The serious was thankfully killed relatively shortly thereafter, and most of the characters either killed or forgotten about.
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I stated that the press was largely due to Kain being a lesbian. I didn't say that the press was good or bad, only that it received a large amount of press because of that fact, publicity stunt or not. I also did not claim that she was popular because of her sexuality, only that she was made notable (and the series itself) because of that fact. In terms of the series itself, from the reviews and sources I've read, the buzz is that the series is good. That's all in there.
But thanks for supplementing what I wrote. It's good to know that within the press, it was viewed as a stunt and that the character was met with backlash (though I never noticed it myself reading through those articles), despite the series being widely praised upon its release. ...Unless I'm wrong and the series was viewed as a bad run overall.
Thanks for that info about Extrano!
Luminum: Yeah, Extrano gave everyone advice, and wanted to be called "Auntie". You know a lot of palms hit the face that day.
Obviously I read way too many comic-news outlets. I'm honestly not sure how she was treated in the regular press; I usually don't read newspapers much any more. A lot of the comic news people were, "Really? How obvious could it be that DC is trying to one-up Marvel?". With the possible exclusion of the Ultimate X-Men couple, Marvel seems to have a little bit more fun with the idea than DC does; DC couplings, even the straight ones, seem more forced than Marvel's.
FWIW...
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Loved legacy of late I reall like Legion seriously if they stop the whole "mental" thing and give him times he's under control he could be such a good character although I usually don't like the uber powered mutant who has the ability to fix everything.
I hope the do a Madrox and at least keep one personality free.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
so, im resurrecting this thread for no particular reason... just wanna chat about the x-books ive been reading recently.
so, x-men schism. the prologue turned out to be even more of a joke than i ever imagined. seriously, i dont use this phrase lightly, but 'schism prologue' is an insult to readers. jeez.
but the event itself has been decent so far. at this point, the tension between wolverine and cyclops seems a little forced - we know they are gonna turn against each-other from the press releases, but i dont see from the story so far why it is happening now. anyway, there is still space for the story to play out, and the new villain is ridiculous but fun.
x-men legacy, new mutants, x-force, and x-factor are quitely going about their buisness, telling good stories. i salute emanuela lupacchino in my pants whenever she shows up to draw shatterstar, rictor, or longshot. seriously, i want to marry shatterstar or something. not happy about kicking karma off new mutants, but danielle moonstar kicks ass. x-force has got me interested in psylocke for the first time in ages, and it also appears to be the only book where the art is both consistent and excellent.
uncanny has had a couple of pretty decent issues since gillen took over, but the recent arc (fear itself tie-in) has greg land on art, an uninteresting villain, and once again more characters running around than it should. frustrating! generation hope has been decent after a slow start, but im still not convinced why i should care more about the five lights than about anole, rockslide, hellion, surge, dust, pixie, the coockoos, bling! etc.
astonishing and x-men V3 are both decent, but i cant really think of a reason why those books exist. i actually really liked the recent arc with the evolutionary, but i dont see why it couldnt have been told in uncanny.
I've been a huge fan of the New Mutants since the first graphic novel way back when. However, while the stories haven't been bad, I'm sick of all the so called event storytelling that bleeds into every X-book. I've been considering dropping NM lately.
I love X-Factor though.
do you feel that has been a problem with NM specifically? i guess '2nd coming' and 'age of x' interrupted the ongoing storylines, but one could easily skip the crossover issues and just pick it up again afterwards. the only crossover NM has truly engaged with was 'necrosha x', and i think those issues were pretty good. in fact, NM #6 (the issue where cypher comes back) is one of my favourite issues. its strange, i dont have much previous investment in most of those characters, but the book has just been written so well, it has been my favourite x-book for the last couple of years.
speaking of new mutants, just read the latest issue, #28. the execution isnt as elegeant as im used to from this book, but at least the focus remains firmly on the characters, and the author seems to have mostly good ideas. karma seems to not have been written out after all, which is a relief, but her scene didnt really make so much sense to me. nate grey appearantly has joined the team, according to the recap page, which im really not sure about. i think his character is pretty much worthless and should never have been brought back; then again, the scenes with him and hope were pretty good. then again then again, i dont want to read about nate grey and hope in new mutants; i want to read about dani and karma and sam and doug. the art is solid, overall another decent issue.
New Mutants is one of my favorite X-books but Mavel cancelled the subscription service and I live 2 hours from the nearest comic shop so I'm always a little behind.
I haven't been real impressed with the storyline in X-Men. I'm hoping Schism will really shake up the X-Universe.
Right now the only X-Books I am truly not feeling are Astonishing and Generation Hope.
Astonishing has been just trudging along for quite a while now. The stories just aren't that gripping.
And I agree with what Hylas said... I would rather be reading about the Young X-Men than the 5 annoying kids being lead by Hope.
All we want is a headrush, all we want is to get out of our skins for a while.
OK after saying I was getting Children's Crusade in TPB I buckle and picked up issues 5 and 6 my comic book shop is crap for back issues, as I accidently threw issue 1 out I got it again, I've also sent away online for issues 3 & 4. Must get issue 2 lol. I picked them up as it fear Itself and Schism all end around the same time and now on purpose for some reason.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
Can someone spoil Schism for me, evertime i go to my local comic book shop its sold out! Im having difficulty finding anything about it online! Whats actually happened in it so far?
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-Wolverine and Cyclops go to a peace conference in order to show the world that Utopia should be considered a nation of its own and such jazz
-Kid Omega (aka Quentin Quire) shows up and makes all the world's leaders at the conference spill there darkest secrets out loud
-Wolverine and Cyclops stop Quentin but the damage is done and people are starting to fear mutants which causes a bunch of nations to bring their old dusty Sentinels out of storage
-Meanwhile some new kid named Kade Kilgore kills his drug kingpin father and becomes the new Black King of the Hellfire Club
-we find out also that Kilgore was the one who set Quentin Quire loose (how he got on Utopia and past Danger is beyond me)
-also, the Hellfire Club has removed all mutant members and is filled with other child geniuses
-back on Utopia, the X-Men are bracing themselves for the fallout of the conference and are going across the globe stopping rampaging Sentinel (since they're old as dirt and barely working)
-Wolverine for some reason starts to form a bond with Idie from Generation Hope since he's worried that her attitude of "being a mutant = being a monster" will lead her down a dark path
-meanwhile in San Francisco...Emma, Magneto, Namor, and the Generation Hope kids go to the opening of a mutant museum
-the Hellfire Kids show up and one by one the X-Men fall....to kids...leaving only Idie to save them
-Cyclops (with his jetpack) and Wolverine are on they're way to help but Cyclops knows they'll be too late and tells Idie to do what she must to save Emma and co.
Wolverine is pretty much screaming "NOOOOO" the whole time
-so Idie kills all the Hellfire Kids' grunts and saves everyone (the Generation Hope tie-in shows the event from Idie's perspective and its a LOT more graphic)
-Jetpack Cyclops and Wolverine finally arrive and Wolverine is pissed that Cyclops had Idie kill
-but all that squabbling is interrupted by the appearance of a huge ass Sentinel being formed over them
and that's where we're at with Schism now...I think we have 2 more issues or so...forgive me for paraphrasing like I did![]()
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I don't think he's acting out of character much, except for one minor detail...
He's all I'm your daddy now to Idie.
Kitty is all grown up, Rogue is in control and keeps company of just the people she would bang and Jubilee is a vampire so let's move on to another girl we can protect. He should be focusing on Jubilee again trying to help her overcome her recent change but no he wants a new little girl to play with.
I really hate the Lights.
And I hate this storyline... I hate the Hellfire Kids, especially Kilgore. I Quintin Quire because he's stupid and came from the Morrison run which I hated too.
All we want is a headrush, all we want is to get out of our skins for a while.
This week I bought Uncanny X-Force and Fear Itself the Deep. If no one does it before I do, I'll spoil a bit of each comic tomorrow.
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I don't mind Quintin bar his character design!
I totally agree with what your saying about Wolverine and Jubilee! I suppose they've all eternity to sort their problems out now? ? ?
I'm not liking Wolverine and Idie at all! The writers are just trying to make her the next Kitty!
I have dropped just about everything from DC that I was buying. With the reboot, it was the perfect jumping off point.
Okay spoiler time
Uncanny X-Fprce: First and foremost. If U are a Psylocke fan, this is a must buy "Really The Entire Dark Angel Saga To Be Honest" Archangel A.K.A. the new Apocalypse is the most polite villain I seen in years with his minions being the Horsemen, Dark Beast, and Holocaust who scorched Wolverine badly. When Archangel and his comrades "He doesn't treat them like minions, but partners' are defeating X-Force, Psylocke, Deadpool, Fantomax, and Deadlok take an badly injured Wolverine and retreat only for Psylocke to stay behind with Archangel. That's all am giving away. Buy and read the book
Fear Itself The Deep 3 of 4: One of the better Fear Itself stories in my opinion. Anyways, Namor, Loa, Lyra, Dr. Strange, and Silver Surfer are dealing with the mind controlled Atlanteans as they try to find the source of the Atlanteans's behavior. While doing so, Silver Surfer encounters Tyrak The Terrible and defeats him while Loa and Dr. Strange find the one who is manipulating the Atlanteans. It turns out to be a Black Queen wannabe name... I really don't give shit just a Black Queen/Selene wannabe who Dr. Strange believed to have defeated only to be killed by Loa. Namor and friends morale builds up until they realize that Attuma still needs to be dealt with. To make matters worse, Attuma has been deemed a "Worthy"
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OK I was thinking can we tie Age of X to Schism. Just take a moment to think we were told it would affect the main universe but I was asking myself how when nearly everyone wanted to wipe their memory of it expect really Frenzy. But what if AOX Wolverine and Balisik are coming through in the personalities of Wolverine and Cyck although Wolverine did fight he saw all the kids as Soldiers really fighting for their lives killing etc maybe he doesn't want this to happen and see integration more of a way to prevent it whereas Cyck sees this type of world coming and wants to prepare everyone for it. Just a theory.
Also WTF Havok on X-Factor, they better not be changing the concept, while I would like slightly more ingratiation with the X Factor time and the rest, I like that they are removed from the others. Although I can see why they would side with Wolverine I would prefer if they stayed out of it.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
Hey guys, just saw this and thought it was f-ing hilarious and thought you all might think so too!
http://www.the-gutters.com/comic/187-ryan-lee
By the way, not sure if you guys have seen this but here's some art from a gay artist who tried to answer the question "what if male superheros were oversexualised like female superheroes".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...y_Comic_Artist
Trust me, you want to look at some of those pics.
Ok get a lot of comics recently
GL 1 was good I thought it kept the previous story line but introduced new readers to this world although I have been keep track a lot through the net so that may have helped me.
This week GH Schism tie in explained to me why Idie sides with Wolverine. But I seriously think of dropping this book as truthfully I feel that all the kids need one book.
Schism still feels like a tiff not a war between Scott and Logan yes the Idie thing is there but over the years many young X-Men may have had to do what she did. I could be wrong so call me up on it.
Children's crusade was a bit filler but it did explain why Wanda got so powerful which I liked.
X-Factor still a solid read. Oh the Lyla story line has me hooked. Poor Star lol.
Ultimate X-Men I'll give a shot this was a prologue to an introduction I felt.
Buffy S9 kinda felt weird in parts like the last story line of S8 but it seems fresh and new. Angel and Faith I'll give an arc, good concept but it hasn't hooked me yet.
Oh God Fear Itself is awful seriously I feel like I need to be reading the tie ins to get the full story. I 1st issue was the best this has disappointed me.
Home Front has been solid in terms of Speedball's story's, I've skipped the rest, this is what the main comic needs to be doing.
Liked Uncanny as it used Fear Itself to tie in to Schism and post Schism. But still thought a fear itself tie in was unneeded.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
Buffy Season 9 #1 was a complete mess.
Schism waste of an OK concept. I was left wondering why Logan can get on his moral high horse about the kids seriously the dude has kept X-Force going and exploited Warren in the process. Also as funny as I think the Hellfire kids are I still find it hard to take them seriously as creditable enemies to the mutant race.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
I actually liked Schism and it's shaking things up in the X-Universe--hopefully for the better. I'm wondering where Xaiver is in all of this. It IS his school, so I'm assuming he'll be joining Wolverine in Westchester?
On another note, I'm kinda glad Fear Itself is over. It was an ok concept but was drug out way too long.
P.S. Anyone catch the ad with a giant phoenix raptor and "Coming 2012"? I'm ready to see Jean back, just hope they don't screw it up.
Quick question: What's the status of Rogue's powers right now?? Has she absorbed somebody else permanently?
I missed the days when she was tough and strong with Miss Marvel's powers.
I think the old Ms. Marvelized Rogue has been gone awhile - she is now without those abilities. But she IS in control of her power absorption now. Not sure exactly who she has in there with her - especially after Age of X - where she was Reaper and absorbed the powers and memories of mutants before they died to make sure they were remembered.
I could be wrong, but it appears to be that Rogue can only hold on to the absorbed powers for a certain amount of time. For instance, she absorbed one of Legion's powers to teleport in order to find Havok, Polaris, and Marvel Girl, but knew it might not last long enough to get them all home.
Next question: Is Nightcrawler alive? In some of the promos for the new X-teams, there is an awfully familiar pointed tail...
And while we're on the subject of dead X-men coming back to life, is Cable returning?
Cable is returning in an event tied with the Avengers, X-sanction I think it's called be out December I think. AOA Nightcrawler will be joining X-Force and there will be Nightcrawler babies running about the Jean Grey School in WAXM. Jason Aaron refuses to state why the babies are there though.
"Flipping Dykes I though they were a myth like Weapons of Mass Destruction" Grace Adler.
I haven't got my hands on Uncanny X-men #1 yet but god Wolverine and the X-Men was terrible. The Artwork was painful and hard to distinguish who was who. It was so rough and edgy that i thought the artist had some writing problem. I'm kinda outraged with what has happened to the X-Mansion. Why in God's name is it a freaking circus? It looks like a spaceship with its very own ice room! Kitty looks Asian for some reason. What the hell possesed them into thinking the danger room could be rebuilt after what happened the last time? Is anyone else hating the comic? Overall i thought it was a book wt=ritten for children by children
To be completely honest... I hope it fails. I really do. Not just sales wise but philosophy wise as well.
1) The kids being kids angle didn't work for the Original 5, or the New Mutants, or Gen X, or the Young X-Men... why would it work now?
2) What's is going to happen when Beast finds out that the great new headmaster of the Jean Grey School for whiney pussies who run away from their problems is still running X-Force secretly? Is he going to go back and apologize to Scott for being a dick? Is he going to go running back to the Avengers? Or will he just cave and accept that "oh it's just that crazy Wolverine up to his old shenanigans again. LOL"
3) And let's talk about the great headmaster. I'm on so many different teams how am I ever going to find time to help mold the children of the future, especially when it was my job on Utopia and I am the one who dropped the ball and failed Edie in the first place because I needed a brewski instead of watching out for the kids.
a) I am also a giant hypocrite considering I taught Kitty, Jubilee, and Rogue how to be stone cold killers and fighters but the poor little African girl doesn't deserve to go down that road.
Ugh I am so pissed at Marvel for doing this... the worst of it is that they seem to be deliberately setting Wolverine up for success what with him having the majority of X-men while Scott is stuck with a bunch of reformed villains. I know most fanboys hate Scott but the truth is Cyclops is right, Wolverine is wrong.
I will say this though, after reading some spoilers I am glad to see them bringing Lifeguard back as one of the "street team" members with Dazzler in SF.
All we want is a headrush, all we want is to get out of our skins for a while.
And I'll say it right here and right now.
The first time any super-villain, whether its a super sentinel or Batroc the Leper, shows up on the door step of the school. Logan will have failed. As soon as the kids have to take up arms in order to defend the school his whole philosophy is out the window. Gone. Kaput.
All we want is a headrush, all we want is to get out of our skins for a while.
any thoughts on Bunker - the DCnU's flamboyantly gay Teen Titan?
I think his characterization is going to remain filed under "needs work" for now. He sounds like Zorro the Gay Blade. We've only seen his first appearance so I'm reserving final judgement until we get to know him better.
Finally getting caught up on the X-books. Seems a bit hypocritical that Hank is upset about X-Force still in action. He blew up at Scott and left Uptopia because it was formed, yet he's still staying at the school with Logan, now that Logan is still running X-Force.
Not sure where they're going with the Angel thing now that he's pretty much been erased. Personally, I think there would be more of a story if Warren had to come to grips with what he did as Archangel.
Let's revive this thread. What's everyone reading?