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[Marvels]

I'm pretty sure that Lorna is STILL depowered, her powers are now some sort of weird Egyptian nanotech crap or whatever. Apparently, she's now the most powerful member of the Uncanny team.

And yep, the Cuckoos are awesome. It's also neat that they're showing the different personalities of the sisters, albeit in subtle ways, like how Mindee can't bear to say that Jay is gone, even though Pheobe doesn't even seem to flinch at the possibility.

Hmm, yeah, Jean could have reversed the whole 'public knows' on her own without any trouble, but she'd probably let that heart of gold get the better of her. Now if I were a telepath, I'd probably use it for nasty things, like forcing my straight crush to fall for me.

[luminum]

I could never force my straight crush, but I'd see if he had any inklings, and if he did, I'd exploit it. But if not, I'd leave him be.

I wonder if they're pulling for that whole dynamic Mindee had against Jay and him interrupting her music. Being a 'music hater' or whatever.

I can see why they killed off/depowered all those characters, though, since they were nice in theory but just too powerful or too boring or too cumbersome. Like Sophia's power was too generic and her character was too 1-dimensional. Laurie was just too powerful and Jay's flight was too cumbersome and couldn't protect him (which is probably why Angel is used so little now). David they probably depowered because with the block in place, he's just like synch only without any powers and he's defenseless enough. He's practically just a temp-smart human. But I'm glad they kept him for some human character respect (see how respected he was with the Cuckoos). I figure he'll probably become like a Moira-type character.

When they switched writers, the old writers were kind of sad that they didn't get to follow through with the next story arc they were setting up (Laurie's father). I wonder how that would have gone...

Plus, they seemed to have dropped Wither's character all together and that love triangle between him, Laurie, and Cessily.

[Marvels]

Yeah, at the very least I'd try and figure out how this one guy (who I love) really feels for me. especially since we've kinda hated each other from the first day we met (cliche much), and there's a small fanclub of horny chics who want to see us become a couple. I think I even remember a girl wanting to write a fanfic about us...

Well, with Elixir's new powers, I seriously doubt they'd have any need for silly little Wither anymore.

And I'm fairly certain that it's Austen who wanted to highlight Mindee was the Cuckoo with the most personality (giving her a bf and having her go as far as sock Sabretooth)

Laurie on the other hand, yeah, anyone who can kill Quentin Quire without so much as a sweat is definitely OP. I never liked David, and I miss Sofia because I get to see the sweeter side of Elixir when she's around

[MunSimpson]

I finally saw the BR movie. My friend just downloaded it from the internet and burnt it for me. It was actually very good! I enjoyed it.

[Effortless_Pro]

Okay, I don't think I've been as pissed at Magneto as I have been right now.

I'm playign a game I bought ages ago for my PS2. You know it, X2:Wolverine's Revenge [first off why is it X2? when the storyline follows more comics than the movie itself?] That's my only complaint it's totally not the movie...damn capatilizing bastards.

Anyways I've been fighting Magneto since I got to his first level of the game and GOD DAMMIT he's hard...and the FAQs...well they suck..."Jump of", "Cyclone Jump Claw" Like what the fuck kinda crack are these FAQ writers on? Telling me things and writing things you can't do in the game...liek throw the character into the vortex to destabilize it. NO YOU HAVE TO KILL THEM FUCKING NEAR IT YOU CAN'T CHUCK THEM IN! NO WOLVERINE CANNOT JUMP AND DIVE CLAW MAGNETO HE CAN'T EVEN JUMP AND ATTACK!

So after what was hours of fighting the fucker I surmised oh...if I stand here I can just stab him, makes sense why didn't I think of this....
I hate idiots who write Game FAQS poorly and I hate idiots who are no good at it, and one's who add their own opinions into the game and tell me what they think about this character....FUCK off I want to know WHAT to do, not who YOU WANT TO DO!

God dammit Magneto though, FUCK he pissed me off in this game throwing shit at me, grabbing me and making me drop....*grumble, piss, moan*....

[Effortless_Pro]

So Ultimate Avengers 2 came out today....

Anyone pick it up? I will eventually I didn't mind the first one, it wasn't THAT good, but now that they've introduce the characters it won't be as boring...?
I wanna see 2.

[GL]

Oh that's right! I'll borrow it from my friend sometime this week. I am curious to check it out.

[luminum]

Eh, UA wasn't that good. I can't imagine UA 2 could be any better.

I really liked their names. Mindee, Phoebe, Esme, and Sophie. Celeste seemed a bit out there and not so much of an 'olde' name as the others.

I wish Sophie was still alive. Oh well, at least she shined

I liked Sophia because of how she made Hellion act. He was sweet when he was with her. I thought i tmight be interesting if they kept her there as his love interest and especially since he was such an up and coming mutant superiorist. It would be cool.

I think it would have been great to keep David and Sophia there as human liasons and researchers, etc. It would have made sense because Sophia has hardly any family and david's already staying there. The interesting bit would be that they used to be the co-heads of the New X-Men team and now depowered, they still work together to help the team somehow.

But one can only dream...

[Effortless_Pro]

Eh, UA wasn't that good. I can't imagine UA 2 could be any better.

Yeah I have to agree.

I found the first one to be very in the middle...kinda boring too.

According to IGN they say it's good....but I shoudl stop listening to them because lately or since forever I haven't been able to stomach their poor ratings of giving high ratings to peopel who pay them the to boast their game.

I will still see it, and hope it's better....

....I miss Hawkeye.

[psylockespears]

Oohh Comic threads give me a happy in my pants :0)

[okstatecowboy]

OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!!!

Look what's coming in April 07!!!!! I can't wait. I hafta have one!

mikey

[GL]

OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!!!!!!

Look what's coming in April 07!!!!! I can't wait. I hafta have one!

mikey

I think we know what mikey wants for Christmas!

Santa baby, slip me a Linda-Carter-Wonder-Woman-Cold-Cast-Porcelain-Statue under the tree, for me...

[Effortless_Pro]

Uhm, so I watched Ultimate Avengers 2....It surpasses the first by light years. It's way better than first I recomend that anyone who saw the first one watch this one.

You can't be disappointed especially after seeing the first one...:P

(btw Thor is awesome)

[luminum]

Hmm...alright then. I'll give it a try. I'm thinking i'll splurge next weekend and buy the omnibus of Astonishing X-Men. I know I want it, but I've felt so weird about buying it for some reason.

[spunkrocker]

Its worth it. Im reading the complete AoA saga at the moment, I didnt realise how deep it affected the Marvel Universe

Was Spidey ever in that saga? He gets mentioned but was he in it?

[Effortless_Pro]

You know something just occurd to me in an incredibly pecculiar war.

I just realised the single, most biggest iconsistency in X3. It's also so minute in the movie, you might of missed it.

Rogue's powers are skin/skin contact, and there is only ONE mutant immune to her powers.
In the Danger room sequence at the beginning of the movie...Colossus saves Rogue life from a missle that's about to hit them by touching her in his metal form. Rogue somehow turned to metal.

Here lies in the problem...Colossus as far as I know is immune to her power in all the universes. Yet somehow through a non skin/skin contact Rogue absorbed Colossus' powers.
Now I have hardly any complaints but I think I just realised the biggest flaw in that movie....

[luminum]

No, that's not true, I don't think. In Mutant X, she tries to save Colossus from sinking into the ground but Selene disintegrates her glove causing her to permanently absorb him. That hinges, though, on whether or not Colossus was in metal form or human form while sinking.

[Effortless_Pro]

No, that's not true, I don't think. In Mutant X, she tries to save Colossus from sinking into the ground but Selene disintegrates her glove causing her to permanently absorb him. That hinges, though, on whether or not Colossus was in metal form or human form while sinking.

Well in the movie he was metal...and I was just playing X-Men Legends today, and one of the trivia questions was "Who is the only mutant immune to Rogue's powers" and I had no idea so I guessed and guessed wrong, and said it was Colossus...

I want this cleared up by Marvel forth-with!

[Marvels]

Hey peeps!

[luminum]

Hey Marvel!

[Homoaffectional]

Oohh Comic threads give me a happy in my pants :0)

Which is why I'm virtually shocked that this has actually been knocked down to the 4th page in the folder...

I have a question... would anyone be interested in helping keep alive a timeline of gay themes/characters in comics -- one which I've been working to complete on-and-off for the past 9 years or so? I might ask this in a new thread if no one notices it.

Please don't refer me to the site of those hacks in the GLA in response to this, please, please, *PLEASE*

Unless you're prepared to tell me you know who Anton Kawasaki really is, anywayz...

[Marvels]

Homo: Well, I'm too busy, but if you plan on doing it, then more power. Or something.

Lu: Hey man, read the latest Astonishing yet? Real mindfuck that Perfection is...still, Kitty kicking ass was awesome.

[luminum]

Thanks for reviving this.

Yeah, latest issue was killer. Call me a dork, but I was actually the most pleased because Emma was actually drawn pretty again (she's been looking a bit ew lately).

Plus, that midn fuck at the end. At first I figured it'd be a fake-out, like some mind fuck that Perfection can do like be someone's interpretation of ultimate evil. But now that I think more and more about it, I wonder if it really is the embodiment of the White Queen. No doubt Cassie could have made a clone of Emma when they gave her Diamond Form and replicated her abilities and her penchant for evil as the White Queen. Maybe Emma's been under someone else's control. But why the monicker 'Perfection'? What makes the White Queen perfect?

Either way, I see this is a means to cause a semi-bridge for Kitty and Emma in the future. This way, Kitty will fight what she always saw Emma as--The White Queen and having defeated her, will destroy that evil and paranoia inside her towards Emma--partially probably, like that truce between Emma and Rachel that got shamefully dropped.

Homo, you should check out the link in my sig. This guy is awesome at it and takes spectacular care and also responds excellently to new submitions. I happened to write the one about Ultimate Colossus and Wallace Wells from Scott Pilgrim.

[Marvels]

Yeah, at first I thought it was a mental projection of the White Queen or something, heck, I even thought that it was another Emma that was created when The Phoenix bonded with her in Endsong (ala the coccooned Jean Grey).

And the only explanation of Cassie making an Emma clone is if, back in New X-Men, she needed to make sure that there was a replacement Emma if ever the original one would get cold feet at the prospect of betraying the team - - something which is highly unlikely considering her mind control was second to none. Not to mention that it would do Cassie's character a major disservice should she play second fiddle to a telepath of a lower level to her.

As for her title Perfection, well, only Whedon can say for sure. Maybe she's truly evil, like, no shades of gray, which would make her like, the 'perfect' in that sense. Heck, she could be a manifestation Emma Frost's subconscious, released through some unknown stress, much like Onslaught was from Charles and Eric's. We are nreaing the ten-year anniv. after all. (Dear God, no)

Good point with the Kitty thing though, I gather that this whole thing would be very therapeutic for her. And I want Logan to stay young James forever. "I hate you Lord! I hate you!" Hehehehe, comedy gold.

[Effortless_Pro]

http://comics.ign.com/articles/727/727089p3.html
Uh oh.

ONSLAUGHT REBORN #1 (of 5)
Written by JEPH LOEB
Pencils and Cover by ROB LIEFELD
50/50 Variant Cover by MICHAEL TURNER
Marvel's greatest heroes sacrificed themselves to save the world from the deadliest threat they had ever faced—Onslaught! The lives of the Fantastic Four and the Avengers were saved only when Franklin Richards created a parallel universe, where we found those heroes, reborn! But this world has long since merged back into our own, and the evil Onslaught—forged from the most vile parts of Magneto's and Professor X's psyches—has been presumed long dead... but now he, himself, is reborn—and he's bringing fragments of the other universe with him! Join comics superstars Jeph Loeb and Rob Liefeld in this no-holds-barred, all-out action extravaganza—celebrating the 10th Anniversary of the event that changed Marvel history—as Onslaught, the Marvel Universe, and the Heroes Reborn Universe collide in this massive crossover! A significant portion of the proceeds from ONSLAUGHT REBORN #1-5 will be donated to The Sam Loeb College Scholarship Fund."
32 PGS./Rated T+ ...$2.99

Warsong sounds good though....history of the Cuckos. I know some people who must be loving this....
They're also going to give wolverine another "mystery" as in...why is he able to do that kinda one....

I guess they can't ever always reveal the full truth about him.

[luminum]

I'm very tired of all this Wolverine stuff. There's nothing else to know, let's not make anything else. Let's stop tryign to make him into a God, let alone a God of Cool.

I'm starting to believe that the White Queen IS physical.

[Effortless_Pro]

I'm very tired of all this Wolverine stuff. There's nothing else to know, let's not make anything else. Let's stop tryign to make him into a God, let alone a God of Cool.

I'm starting to believe that the White Queen IS physical.

Hmmm, would you prefer this Luminum???

[GanymedeATL]

I didn't realize this thread existed! Pretty cool! Must say that I've been disapponted with the whole Emma storyline in Astonishing. I thought if anyone would 'get' a redemptive character as Emma was turnig out to be, it would be the creator of Faith, Angel, and Spike, each of whom bear similarities to the White Queen (not to mention that I always thought the diamond-thing was a telekinetic thing that Emma did subconsciously, since she couldn't also access her telepathy whilst in that form). The current reveal is boring in comparison, IMO.
Still, it's better than Civil War! What part of being vigilantes don't the Marvel supertypes get? Of COURSE you're working outside the law. That's the point of the masks and the secret identities. Otherwise, you'd be cops, and get PAID. I'll still pick up whatever the Young Avengers are in, though. I really LIKED their series.
DC? Connor was HOT! I miss him.

[Marvels]

Lu: Daniel Way's origins must be the most overhyped piece of filth I've ever read. And looked at. Seriously, I draw better than the series artist.

Gany: Who says she's evil?

[GanymedeATL]

Who says she's evil?

True, but Whedon's take so far has negated most of what we saw during Morrison's run, where Emma's 'turn' made sense, given the events she had endured. To have all of that have been a manipulation on the part of Cassandra ruins for me what were some great storytelling and character moments. To have Whedon, who, based upon his previous history of handling redemptive characters, I thought would do some GREAT Emma, turn around and make everything that happened 'unhappen' was disapponting to me.

[Marvels]

Good point. But still, Emma's done a lot of heroing even outside the Nova story arc, most of which were done without Nova making her remember their little deal at the last second. Her love for the Stepfords were genuine to say the least, and she made for a pretty valuable team player when they rescued Xorn. It's also a much better fit than having Emma help the X-Men only just so she could grab her purse back.

At any rate, the X-Offices only rationale is that 'people do what they have to', and I will be disappointed if she remain a villain (which I doubt), but I'm gonna have to wait for this entire arc to finish before I start feeling bad.

[GanymedeATL]

It's also a much better fit than having Emma help the X-Men only just so she could grab her purse back.

That wasn't actually the reason. Look at what the cab driver was saying in that issue. Emma teamed with the X-Folk because their agenda and hers were now one and the same. However, her flippant explanation as to why she returned was completely in character for her. Loved the realtionship with the Stepfords as well, and you could see how Emma was affected by their 'turning' on her (which was at least in part her own fault).
I hope Whedon surprises me.

[Marvels]

Well, I don't much like reading into people's motivations, as was Emma's return would be either to teach or to destroy Cassandra, but should it have been the latter, then her allowing Nova's consciousness into the body of something that she could fully groom may have been her ticket to redemption.

Oh screw it, I jsut want to see Hellion in every X-title in existence.

[luminum]

I took her turn around in the cab to be her rememberance now by Cassandra Nova. And though Emma knew her position as a mole, she also was who she always had been. Emma's not the kind to let a conflict of interests stand int he way of what she wants. So she was always pure in her motives to protect the students and all that, but when it came to Cassie Nova, she knew what she had to do anyway.

[Marvels]

If anyone wants some major Astonishing spoilers, then you can check the most recent solicitations out. Anyone else though, I'd advise you look away. The next and final arc from Joss and John is called Unstoppable - - and damn does it have a hot cover.

[okstatecowboy]

Woo-Hoo! We've just sent the first issue of Pride High to the printers.

You can get a preview here: http://pridecomics.com/previews.html

Ordering information is also available at the main site. Can't believe my dream character is finally coming to life after so long! Feel free to let me know your thoughts (good and bad) regarding the preview.

mikey
(aka Lightspot)

[luminum]

If anyone wants some major Astonishing spoilers, then you can check the most recent solicitations out. Anyone else though, I'd advise you look away. The next and final arc from Joss and John is called Unstoppable - - and damn does it have a hot cover.

Who's the dude? Is that Scott?! Why the costume change?

And just who is the SWORD mole in the school?!

[Marvels]

Lu: Yep, that's Scott. Looks like he needs a codename change...and now that you mention mole, Blindfold was mysteriously talking to an unknown mystery person. Maybe she's it.

Cowboy: Good job, man.

[luminum]

Damn...do you think this Astonishing fall-out is going to effect Marvel's other titles? I should hope so. If I see Scott with his visor (sexy as it is) I'll be upset.

[Marvels]

Well, odds are that the rest of Marvel U is gonna catch up with Whedon when Civil War wraps up. Astonishing is a little too difficult to place within the current U, but with X-Men: Civil War homing on on how Scott isn't a pussy anymore, then that's probably the tying theme between the two titles.

Bishop must die.

[hookamonkeyup]

Bishop must die.

i am getting tired of Bishop. i hope they kill him and not bring him back to life.

love this thread btw.

[luminum]

I was wondering how long it would take before they really start takinf risks and getting rid of their stagnating characters.

[GL]

I watched "Ultimate Avengers 2" the other day. Meh. Considering the gorgeous art of Bryan Hitch, the art direction in both Ultimate movies has been sadly lacking.

The only thing worthwhile in this DVD was the Ultimates featurette. They talked with Bryan Hitch and Mark Millar and they discussed the whole direction and theme of the comic book itself. That was worth the price of admission. Most of the time we only get to see the finished product and rarely ever get to hear from the creators and get their views.

[Marvels]

love this thread btw.

You should have been here for the Civil War argument. That really got this thread burning...

[luminum]

Government whore!!!

BTW, just read Civil War: Young Avengers Runaways 2...fuck yeah! I'm so pleased. The 'dating a skrull' conversation between Kat and Billy was so cute <3

Is Quentin Quire the voice talking in the Cuckoos heads in Warsong? Are allt he Cuckoos back? It really makes you think. I'm glad it's all coming together. This has been long overdue.

And I'm starting to see just how fuckign awesome adjectiveless X-Men is. I love how Anole was there to see Jean-Paul. It was so sweet and sad I hope they write more between the two. Not slash, mind you, (not that I'm opposed at all) but I really dig the mentor/mentee relationship they were building. Anole rocks

[Marvels]

If you look back at Endsong, the black and white thought bubbles that conversed with the cuckoos was the same bubble that was used for the Phoenix. Quentin's was normal jagged bubble, only with a green outline. I have to say that the 1st ish didn't really blow me away (disjointed story, Quentin again, SIlvestri-clone art), but I love those wacky girls enough to go through with the whole arc. Just hope it isn't ultimately pointless.

Anyway, yeah, they're kinda showing just how similar the two teams are. Truth is, I was supposed to wait for the 2nd hardcover of the Runaways (I love the team), so I was holding out on reading the tie-in to civil war - - unfortunately, I ended up getting spoiled as to who died by IGN's power Rankings, so, okay, ended up reading it. It's nothing special, but an okay way to pass the time.

I still don't read adjectiveless. You criminal.

[luminum]

It's so damn, good though!

The writers are really flexing Rogue's leadership muscle and using her to her best ability. None of this Xtreme X-Men crap.

Read it!

I haven't read Gert's death. I read the first hardcover (more or less) and picked up Civil War where they're fresh off of it, so it got spoiled for me. But I liked Gert. I hope the storyline was worth killing her off

I wasn't blown away either by the 1st issue and the art isn't great either (I think I still like it better overall to Endsong's airbrushed hooker/porn star look and vacant expressions) but hopefully all of this will be resolved well. Will the Cuckoos indeed receive TK as a secondary? Or will it just be Phoenix given? And it looks like they'll be revealing a lot of Cuckoos history.

And yes, I reread the first issue and they refer to the black bubble as 'she' so it's definitely the Phoenix.

[Marvels]

I'm just worried about how their newfangled powers may affect the X-Men. I mean, those three pretty psychics actually jumpstarted the Phoenix Potential (which to my recollection is impossible for non-omegas), no student could ever be allowed to be that strong without some major conflict in the status quo.

Side note, I like Land's hooker art. I wanted to see him draw the Cuckoos again so bad! (He's the only artist in existence to make Quentin look remotely handsome)

And yeah, I trust Vaughan to not kill people off for shock value, ala Bendis. He's leaving Runaways by issue 24 though. Bad news. Good news is, it's the unbe-fucking-lievably talented Joss Whedon who will replace him. Hello pull-list!

[luminum]

But Quentin was so much more interesting as the scrawny geek/psychopath. It seems like all the Marvel characters are buff. Quentin was interesting as a scrawny chicken boy (one of the reasons I grew to love Beak and Angel, actually).

It feels like they're not taking risks with their character designs for featured characters, exception being, say, Hank or Santo. Give me the days of Cypher and Wolfsbane and Marrow and all that just to spice it up a bit and make it a bit more visually appealing.

Take the character designs somewhere different, not crappy, just different.

BTW, I bought a back issue of the X-Men Christmas thing. It was cute and made me feel a hell of a lot better than I usually do reading X-Men. New X-Men's also pretty damn good, too. I just hoep they can make them function like an actual team instead of a group that each does their own thing during a battle.

I think the Cuckoos are Phoenix potential right now just because everyone wants them to be. Remember that Quentin never took up the Phoenix force, so maybe that's the setup? Besides, something is obviously going wrong because the Phoenix is telling them they're not ready yet but for some reaosn they're manifesting it anyway.

[Effortless_Pro]

But Quentin was so much more interesting as the scrawny geek/psychopath. It seems like all the Marvel characters are buff. Quentin was interesting as a scrawny chicken boy (one of the reasons I grew to love Beak and Angel, actually).

It feels like they're not taking risks with their character designs for featured characters, exception being, say, Hank or Santo. Give me the days of Cypher and Wolfsbane and Marrow and all that just to spice it up a bit and make it a bit more visually appealing.

Take the character designs somewhere different, not crappy, just different.

BTW, I bought a back issue of the X-Men Christmas thing. It was cute and made me feel a hell of a lot better than I usually do reading X-Men. New X-Men's also pretty damn good, too. I just hoep they can make them function like an actual team instead of a group that each does their own thing during a battle.

I think the Cuckoos are Phoenix potential right now just because everyone wants them to be. Remember that Quentin never took up the Phoenix force, so maybe that's the setup? Besides, something is obviously going wrong because the Phoenix is telling them they're not ready yet but for some reaosn they're manifesting it anyway.

Perhaps they can access the Phoenix force because of their minds being combined instead of it being in one mind only.

Perhaps different Traits of the Phoenix will be.are stored in different sisters...or because the power could/is just spread out amongst the three. (Or 5 perhaps the two deceased sisters could/are somehow helping...maybe they entered "the white hot room")