Gay porn is boring, and I'm gay

[slnattak]

Why is mainstream gay porn so stiff and boring? And not really that creative?

Porn is meant to arouse you.... but gay porn tries to be 'artistic' and romantic instead of pure arousal.

The guys don't really act all that into it. Like can't they at least pretend and exaggerate they want to be there? Way not cool. I mean, porn is porn. It should be a tool to get you off if you don't have somebody in your life yet. That it's main social purpose. If you want to make art or erotica, then do that. But you can't really mix the two.

Straight porn seems more real, raw and rough - and also naturally creative. They really know what guys like and how to turn them on.

Is it because gay porn has a huge female fan base that isn't as visually stimulated?

[Maklaar13]

I agree with you, why has this happen? All the boys are so pretty and the movies are so clean it is very unrealistic. Even the "so called" amateur sites like CF and SC, nowadays provide such squeaky clean scenarios, that I wonder if everyone involved gets sanitized before they make the film. Furthermore, look at the falcon movies, I would not watch any of their movies if they sent me the dvd for free, because they are so clean and predictable, and hot house has done the same thing. Can anything be done about it? I sure hope so!

[slnattak]

Yeah man. Way too like shiny and too clean. Not sexual. Just stiff...

Treasure island media stuff is pretty good though.

It might have something to do with the 'gay for pay' thing and the fact that maybe they really are a lot of straight guys in the films 'modeling' so it doesn't look that attractive.

But the amateur stuff on xtube is a lot hotter to me.

titan vids are still pretty good though, I'll give them that.

[harristate]

Typical plot:
A and B (two shiny guys who've been shaved and/or waxed to within an inch of their lives) on a couch groping.
A sucks B.
B sucks A.
A rims B.
B rims A.
A fucks B.
B fucks A.
B pulls out and cums on A's back.
A flips over and cums on own stomach.
A and B kiss.
The formula is so predictable...there are exeptions of course but there are too many that do the same thing over and over again...

and an endless barrage of "OH YEAH" and "Does that feel good?" or "Do you like that?"

What are they gonna say? It DOESN'T feel good?......how fucking stooooooooopid........

[sexyfuck]

I agree. And the acting is always terrible.

[neruda]

Its all those str8 guys in there

[EwanSF]

Porn is hit and miss unfortunately, like any media really. You get good porn and you get piss-poor porn (check me and ma mad illiteration) in the same sense you get shit movies and good ones, or book etc etc.

Although whoever made the point about falcone studios was spot on, they are truely dreadful. I don't want to see tender, passionate kissing, I want to see two hotties fuckin' like dogs in the street. Bit of raw, animalistic shaggin' never goes amiss.

That's weird, lol, because I'm straight and I think straight porn is boring. Straight feels so fake and dirty and gay seems purer.

[mustangman]

I agree but is anyone heading or posting willing to make something different?
You know, it is free market and it is up to us to try something new.
So, What do you guys have in mind?

Originally Posted by pacountryboy

That's weird, lol, because I'm straight.....

*snicker*

Carry on.

[jesusfarts]

i know what you mean.
maybe you should try exploring different sites than your CFs and your SCs. There quite a few porn sites that can cater to your taste.

[huntneo]

I agree with you guys.

Sometimes, I feel like I have seen all the good porn there is to see.

That's pretty much why i prefer amateur porn videos now. I mean REAL amateur stuff...
It seems less "sanitized" and fake.


Good posts from most everyone thus far.

[GQDaddy]

Originally Posted by pacountryboy

That's weird, lol, because I'm straight and I think straight porn is boring. Straight feels so fake and dirty and gay seems purer.

That's weird for me as well, because I'm gay and I find myself watching more and more straight porn. I think the appeal is because it is something I will never do, and I actually feel dirty just for watching it, and porn SHOULD be dirty, IMO.

on another thread celebrating early 80s gay porn I just made a comment something to the effect that a lot of early 80s gay porn still holds a strong erotic power for those of us of a certain age, because at the time we weren't inundated with porn, there weren't a lot of gay porn companies and it was not easy to get, usually mail order, and until the advent of video you had to own a projector etc. Maybe its some sort of nostalgia thing tickling my libido but watching an old, raw porn video leaves me with an exhileration that I just don't get from the online companies these days.

Nowadays there isn't a day goes by (let alone an hour!) that a lot of us aren't exposed to porn via the internet. If they suddenly took all of our porn away and it was something rare and hard to get, I bet a lot of us wouldn't be quite so jaded or picky.

But, that's not the case, so here we are, bored with gay porn...

[chatolandia]

Porn in general is boring


or sometimes ridiculously funny



I prefer Amateur stuff, but sometimes professional work can be very sexy and intense.

But 99% of the time, my imagination is better

[bw92116]

The few straight porn videos I have watched were imaginative and/or funny, or had wittier dialogue, intriguing scenarios... I don't know what it was, but they were entertaining apart from the sex. And if the guy is hot enough, straight porn can be a turn-on for me. I don't even look at the women, only the guys.

Too many gay porn videos I have seen seem over-produced and predictable. The guys are shaved, waxed, buffed, powdered and perfectly coiffed. The point seems to be idealized beauty rather than sexiness. And the sequence of events (as someone above detailed) seems pretty predictable. Occasionally, the story and acting are interesting and believable, but most of the time, the production is a carefully-mounted fantasy piece which doesn't seem like real life. Once in a while, though, you come across one which seems authentic and like the guys in it are really having sex and there just happened to be a camera there to catch it. My final complaint is the horrible, annoying music in most gay porn. It's completely dispensable and I wish they would just ditch the music completely.

[huntneo]

Originally Posted by bw92116

Too many gay porn videos I have seen seem over-produced and predictable. The guys are shaved, waxed, buffed, powdered and perfectly coiffed. The point seems to be idealized beauty rather than sexiness. And the sequence of events (as someone above detailed) seems pretty predictable. Occasionally, the story and acting are interesting and believable, but most of the time, the production is a carefully-mounted fantasy piece which doesn't seem like real life. Once in a while, though, you come across one which seems authentic and like the guys in it are really having sex and there just happened to be a camera there to catch it. My final complaint is the horrible, annoying music in most gay porn. It's completely dispensable and I wish they would just ditch the music completely.

Good post...the part I bolded is one of my main annoyances...

They don't even look real by the time it's all over.

Not to mention--they get even more washed out during editing.

[figjam]

Originally Posted by harristate

Typical plot:
A and B (two shiny guys who've been shaved and/or waxed to within an inch of their lives) on a couch groping.
A sucks B.
B sucks A.
A rims B.
B rims A.
A fucks B.
B fucks A.
B pulls out and cums on A's back.
A flips over and cums on own stomach.
A and B kiss.
The formula is so predictable...there are exeptions of course but there are too many that do the same thing over and over again...

You summed it up 100% - that is exactly what gay (and straight to some degree) porn has become. A 20yo boring old formula - and studios wonder why people don't spend money on porn anymore.

[DavidMac]

Originally Posted by figjam

You summed it up 100% - that is exactly what gay (and straight to some degree) porn has become. A 20yo boring old formula - and studios wonder why people don't spend money on porn anymore.

the above is right- unless you have a guy who is strictly trade, then its- A blows B, A rims B and B fucks A...when I see a guy getting rimmed, I want the next step- plow that ass...its a major turn off when he's not fucked.

[Woofbite]

Originally Posted by harristate

Typical plot:
A and B (two shiny guys who've been shaved and/or waxed to within an inch of their lives) on a couch groping.
A sucks B.
B sucks A.
A rims B.
B rims A.
A fucks B.
B fucks A.
B pulls out and cums on A's back.
A flips over and cums on own stomach.
A and B kiss.
The formula is so predictable...there are exeptions of course but there are too many that do the same thing over and over again...

And include the shot and time factor - Two minutes of clinical close-up followed by ten seconds of faces. Two more minutes of clinical close-up, followed by ten seconds full-body shot, followed by two minutes of clinical close-up.
And be sure not to show any transitions between activities, i.e. go directly from rim to fuck and fuck to j/o to closeup of money shot. Exclude condom installation, penetration and related activities. If such action should inadvertently be included, make sure only clinical close-ups are shown. No need for full-body shots or facial reactions.

[Aloe]

Originally Posted by slnattak

Why is mainstream gay porn so stiff and boring? And not really that creative?

Porn is meant to arouse you.... but gay porn tries to be 'artistic' and romantic instead of pure arousal.

The guys don't really act all that into it. Like can't they at least pretend and exaggerate they want to be there? Way not cool. I mean, porn is porn. It should be a tool to get you off if you don't have somebody in your life yet. That it's main social purpose. If you want to make art or erotica, then do that. But you can't really mix the two.

Straight porn seems more real, raw and rough - and also naturally creative. They really know what guys like and how to turn them on.

Is it because gay porn has a huge female fan base that isn't as visually stimulated?

You took the words right out of my mouth. All you have to do is look at the typical straight porn and you can see how much the performers are into it. Plus they don't try to use any of those stupid plot devices. It's all about getting you off.

[Aloe]

The women in straight porn seem to really be into it. They suck dick like it's there only source of oxygen. The men in gay porn suck dick like they are on downers or something. The men in straight porn are into it to.

I don't think it has anything to do with gay4pay. The films I'm talking about are full of self admitted queers.

For some reason alot of gay guys hold back during sex on screen. It's not a problem I see with straight guys and girls.

Plus in straight porn everyone knows their place. The men are in charge and the women are subjugated. In gay porn everyone wants to be equal. My theory is that is that even the bottoms don't want to look like they have lost control. It's a man thing I think more so than a gay thing.

Only a handful of gay porn performers give the performances that I think slnattak is talking about. Guys like Jeremy Jordan, Kurt Wild and Tag Adams. I'm sure there are others but those are the 3 that come to mind.

[boxerdudeuk]

Originally Posted by Aloe

The women in straight porn seem to really be into it. They suck dick like it's there only source of oxygen. The men in gay porn suck dick like they are on downers or something. The men in straight porn are into it to.

I don't think it has anything to do with gay4pay. The films I'm talking about are full of self admitted queers.

For some reason alot of gay guys hold back during sex on screen. It's not a problem I see with straight guys and girls.

Plus in straight porn everyone knows their place. The men are in charge and the women are subjugated. In gay porn everyone wants to be equal. My theory is that is that even the bottoms don't want to look like they have lost control. It's a man thing I think more so than a gay thing.

Only a handful of gay porn performers give the performances that I think slnattak is talking about. Guys like Jeremy Jordan, Kurt Wild and Tag Adams. I'm sure there are others but those are the 3 that come to mind.

i agree. there's gotta be a bit of a "take charge" element in porn for it to be dirty and hot. and i also hate all the shaving/waxing/primping involved with gay men. they're just too much. i like to see dudes natural, which is so much hotter. probably why i dig 80's type porn as well. it's just so much more natural.

i've been watching more straight porn lately too, which i find really sexy. the chicks are meh but at least the dudes look like they're enjoying themselves. lol

[jemhall12]

i've heard thats common in most places in the world. And apparently it even more common if your religious stange lol, you'd never of thought it




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[cumboy1]

I prefer Amateur porn, I also like gay-4-pay, active duty, collegedudes247

Originally Posted by getstoseven

and an endless barrage of "OH YEAH" and "Does that feel good?" or "Do you like that?"

What are they gonna say? It DOESN'T feel good?......how fucking stooooooooopid........

Actually, I have a porn from a pay site in which the director asks the top if the bottom's ass is tight and the top replies, "Not really."

^

[wizardsz]

AGREE, but have to add Lucas Kazan makes some good porn with storylines.

[belamy]

People are boring, and I'm not a misanthrope.

[Yuki Sohma]

Originally Posted by Aloe

... In gay porn everyone wants to be equal. My theory is that is that even the bottoms don't want to look like they have lost control. It's a man thing I think more so than a gay thing. ...

Interesting comment Aloe...........I think there's some truth to it...........often, at least in some of the scenes I've watched, the sexual "passion" and desire to please or be pleased by one or both partners needs further exploration...........

...........at times there is often way to much directing and corregraphing with the thought of filming a product and getting it to market...........therefore, not allowing adequate time for the partners to truly appreciate each other...........






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[BlueLantern]

Originally Posted by harristate

Typical plot:
A and B (two shiny guys who've been shaved and/or waxed to within an inch of they lifes...

You win, not only the internet, but everything everywhere.

[Marco Sensual]

Its obvious that gay porn movies are not what they were before.

Gay porn movies from today all looks the same.All men in gay porn movies from today looks the same.In gay porn from today you see suck fuck cum.Thats it.

The best gay porn came out in the 90s.Mostly early 90s.Back then in gay porn men had more sexual positions.Men were really into each other.You can tell that they really liked to have sex together.

I watch gay porn from the 90s.Gay porn from the 90s are the best.Some gay porn from the late 80s are good also.Gay porn from the 90s had funny story.

The worst thing about gay porn of today is the gay for pay thing.The gay for pay thing ruin gay porn.Most gay men dont want to see men who still have a foot in the closet.Most gay men wants to see gay men having gay sex.

Gay porn is becoming a joke.

falcon movies from today are horrible.In falcon movies from today you see twinks.You are not supposed to see twinks in falcon movies.In the 80s and the 90s.Men in falcon movies had the male model look.This is what falcon movies are about.In falcon movies from today they changed everything.Men are too thin or too big.In falcon movies from today the sex is very choreographed and very ordinary.

falcon movies from the 90s are the best.The sex was still choreographed.But at least it was more real and less ordinary.

Lets face it.falcon movies always been about choreographed sex.This is what mainstream gay porn are all about.

This is the same thing with most mainstream gay porn studios.The sex looks fake.

I hate amateur porn.Because amateur porn = gay for pay.I cant stand watching closet cases faking it.

The gay for pay thing is in mainstream gay porn since the beginning of gay porn.But at least in the 80s and the 90s it was not as popular.So you could tell that most men in gay porn were actually gay.

When you watch gay porn from today.You are not sure if most men in gay porn are gay.Because the gay for pay men kind of took over mainstream gay porn.Gay for pay men makes more money than gay men.You have the proof that gay porn is becoming a joke.

If you want to watch good gay porn.Watch gay porn from the 80s or gay porn from the 90s.Most gay porn from today are horrible.

I saw lots of gay porn movies.Its not only gay for pay men who looks bored.Gay men also often looks bored.Even if 2 gay men have sex in gay porn.They looks like they dont want to make porn.They looks bored.

I saw few clips of straight porn and straight men looks like they really like the sex they have.

For some reasons lots of gay men in gay porn dont seems to have fun.

From what i saw in gay porn.Most gay men dont seems to have fun when they have sex.Most of the time they looks so bored and out of place.They only follow the motion.They dont fuck hard.They barely moan.

Its not surprising that lots of gay men complain about how bad gay porn is.

You can see the diferrence between straight men having sex in straight porn and gay men having sex in gay porn.

Somehow straight men seems to be more into it.Straight men moans non stop.They fuck very hard.They often shoot huge loads of cum.

I notice that men in straight porn often shoots very hard and for a long time.Unlike in gay porn most gay men shoots small loads of cum or average loads of cum most of the time.Theres exceptions.But most of the time gay men in gay porn are not shooters.

Why gay men in gay porn are more low energy than straight men in straight porn?

This is a mystery.

I concur with most of the thoughts expressed thus far. I've seen just a few of Jeff Stryker's vids and I was amazed at the raw eroticism of it all.
I want to be turned on when I watch porn...

[fahrenheit]

Gay porn sucks because it is made like straight porn. Straight porn sucks because it is straight porn.

Originally Posted by Marco Sensual

Its obvious that gay porn movies are not what they were before.

Gay porn movies from today all looks the same.All men in gay porn movies from today looks the same.In gay porn from today you see suck fuck cum.Thats it.

The best gay porn came out in the 90s.Mostly early 90s.Back then in gay porn men had more sexual positions.Men were really into each other.You can tell that they really liked to have sex together.

I watch gay porn from the 90s.Gay porn from the 90s are the best.Some gay porn from the late 80s are good also.Gay porn from the 90s had funny story.

The worst thing about gay porn of today is the gay for pay thing.The gay for pay thing ruin gay porn.Most gay men dont want to see men who still have a foot in the closet.Most gay men wants to see gay men having gay sex.

Gay porn is becoming a joke.

falcon movies from today are horrible.In falcon movies from today you see twinks.You are not supposed to see twinks in falcon movies.In the 80s and the 90s.Men in falcon movies had the male model look.This is what falcon movies are about.In falcon movies from today they changed everything.Men are too thin or too big.In falcon movies from today the sex is very choreographed and very ordinary.

falcon movies from the 90s are the best.The sex was still choreographed.But at least it was more real and less ordinary.

Lets face it.falcon movies always been about choreographed sex.This is what mainstream gay porn are all about.

This is the same thing with most mainstream gay porn studios.The sex looks fake.

I hate amateur porn.Because amateur porn = gay for pay.I cant stand watching closet cases faking it.

The gay for pay thing is in mainstream gay porn since the beginning of gay porn.But at least in the 80s and the 90s it was not as popular.So you could tell that most men in gay porn were actually gay.

When you watch gay porn from today.You are not sure if most men in gay porn are gay.Because the gay for pay men kind of took over mainstream gay porn.Gay for pay men makes more money than gay men.You have the proof that gay porn is becoming a joke.

If you want to watch good gay porn.Watch gay porn from the 80s or gay porn from the 90s.Most gay porn from today are horrible.

I saw lots of gay porn movies.Its not only gay for pay men who looks bored.Gay men also often looks bored.Even if 2 gay men have sex in gay porn.They looks like they dont want to make porn.They looks bored.

I saw few clips of straight porn and straight men looks like they really like the sex they have.

For some reasons lots of gay men in gay porn dont seems to have fun.

From what i saw in gay porn.Most gay men dont seems to have fun when they have sex.Most of the time they looks so bored and out of place.They only follow the motion.They dont fuck hard.They barely moan.

Its not surprising that lots of gay men complain about how bad gay porn is.

You can see the diferrence between straight men having sex in straight porn and gay men having sex in gay porn.

Somehow straight men seems to be more into it.Straight men moans non stop.They fuck very hard.They often shoot huge loads of cum.

I notice that men in straight porn often shoots very hard and for a long time.Unlike in gay porn most gay men shoots small loads of cum or average loads of cum most of the time.Theres exceptions.But most of the time gay men in gay porn are not shooters.

Why gay men in gay porn are more low energy than straight men in straight porn?

This is a mystery.

I disagree. I think 90s gay porn was *way* too plastic; glossy, pretentious muscley models...with pretentiously shaved and oiled up chests and bad 90210 hair, looking like Chip & Dale wannabes. I think that began the downfall of gay porn. The best porn (gay and straight), without a doubt, came from 1970s and early/mid 1980s. Back when it was shot on film, had a story, and actually looked theatrical. It all went to hell when it went to video.

[PhunkSpunk]

The problem with mainstream gay porn is, and has always been, that it is essentially some queen's fantasy about what occurs in 'gender intensive' situations about which he hasn't a clue: the (quarterback or sergeant) enters the (locker room or barracks) for the (junior varsity or new recruit) gang-bang that happens every Tuesday afternoon after (practice or drills). I mean, how else would he know to wear a cock ring under his black leather jock strap? I always go back to that mesomorph queen Matthew Rush telling some guy to 'eat my hot jock ass!' I'm sorry I can't get aroused when I'm laughing that hard!

[ChaseO310]

Just adding my two cents - I haven't read everything here yet - but - I have shelves full of gornm pay porn - don't make me tell you how many dvd's and vhs tapes I have!! - and NOW I rarely watch them - I am hooked on two or three sites like Corbin fisher and sean cody - can't exactly tell you why - maybe it's the "reality" thing, etc ... any thoughts ?? I just love guys like Brent and Bailey and Rodney, etc ......... That's why I'm trying to sell my VHS/DVD collection ...... I don't watch them anymore, except for one or two special ones .... am I wierd???

[jesusfarts]

I know a lot of people aren't too fond of BB porn, but I find that in most cases the guys are more into the sex.
I don't know if it has to do with the kind of men who do BB or what. I have no explanation, it's just an observation.
Obviously, there are exceptions, but vids from BB sites like TIM are very hot and real (and the guys are definitely not waxed and shiny model twinks. Some even look like they could be my dad's age!)

[Alpha1851]

Originally Posted by slnattak

Straight porn seems more real, raw and rough - and also naturally creative. They really know what guys like and how to turn them on.

Is it because gay porn has a huge female fan base that isn't as visually stimulated?

Straight porn is better? What exactly do you like about it? The chicks w/ fake tits, bleached blond hair w/ black roots showing, who scream like a stuck pig when they're being fucked? The ugly ass men? Well, that's if you can even see the man at all. Most straight porn focuses on the chick.

As far as creativity goes, it's all pretty much the same scenario. The handyman comes over to help the poor girl and her sister w/ their pipes. The cableman comes over to install the extended package. The teacher disciplines the naughty Catholic school girl. Or, the fraternity plays a prank on the sorority and a wild orgy breaks out.

Even the sex is the same. It goes from handjob/titjob, to oral, to 69, to doggy, to missionary, to woman on top, to reverse cow girl, back to missionary, ending w/ the cumshot on the woman's face or back. Couple that w/ "Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh," "Fuck me, fuck me, fuck me, fuck me," "It's so big," "Oh god, oh god, oh god, oh god" and the straight porn flick is complete. Usually, straight porn contains raw/bare fucking (I think you all call it bareback) so if that floats your boat, I guess straight porn would have more to offer. Just mute it first.

If there's a huge female fan base in gay porn, I'd love to meet the other women.

[voyguy36]

in my humble opinion, i wont buy mainstream big studio gay porn. they all have guys with perfect bodys, and we know thats not real. in the amateur produced porn, they actually have body types thats like mine. and when they moan, its real, not acting. also, some of the mainstream porn sells for $69.95, thats unreal, i mean who buys that??.
ok sry to rant, just my $.02 worth

[Royal Heart]

What's always bored me to death was the lengthy cock-in-ass close-ups. We're expected to watch ten or fifteen minutes of a dick in an ass and be turned on by it. Call me crazy, but I like to watch a man fuck. I mean the whole man, not just one part of his anatomy. I mean, I really like the way the male body looks, the way it works, the way it fucks. It's fucking hot. So that's what I want to see - I want to see a man fucking a man for most of the film, not a dick fucking an ass for most of the film.

[littlejoe]

Agree with above post: we should see more footage of the entire man while he's having sex. Can't stand camera shots two inches away from somebody's anal ring <Blech>. Show me the guy fucking him, how he pumps, does he get on his knees or lay on top and pump just his hips? Does he hold himself up by the arms or wrap them around his partner? And the bottom--so much gay porn focuses on the bottom at the expense of the top (probably just a personal preference, there, though.)
Personally, I like the "straight guy gets a handjob/blowjob from the gay guy" scenarios. For example--Kev Adams and James Nichols from Englishlads, Vinnie and Boston in the Sneek Peek videos, early sean cody (like when the webmaster first introduced Isaak; he was all over that, sucking, licking, having Isaak fuck his face,) and of course Mililtary Classified (though that guy needs a cameraman, FOR REAL!) Don't care if they're waxed, as I really don't like extremely hairy men, but CF, SC, and, especially Fratmen, turn hot hunks into androids.

I think straight porn is boring too. If you think the fake plastic looking gay men are bad just have a look at the plastic looking women in virtually ALL straight porn. So many of them are unattractive, but they have piles of makeup on their faces and bleached blond hair and implants and ugh. I think straight guys like fakeness more than gay guys do. Of course, when I'm watching porn I don't wanna see some ugly hair troll either just because some people think that's what a "real" man looks like. Nope, that's just an ugly man.

[titi75]

I totally disagree : I m very happy that in gay porn we see men kissing, in str8 porn its such rough a peice of meat on another one. Yes i love watching str8 porn cause its so rough, degrating that it can arouse me but gay porn remains a cinema where there is some love to justifiy the sex. I dotn understand u when u see BelAmi films u see young smooth guys kissing and having sex but when u watch tresaure island films is totally different, and when u watch some european film they can be smooth and dirty...what I mean is gay porn is very wide ranging...

[harristate]

Originally Posted by Royal Heart

What's always bored me to death was the lengthy cock-in-ass close-ups. We're expected to watch ten or fifteen minutes of a dick in an ass and be turned on by it. Call me crazy, but I like to watch a man fuck. I mean the whole man, not just one part of his anatomy. I mean, I really like the way the male body looks, the way it works, the way it fucks. It's fucking hot. So that's what I want to see - I want to see a man fucking a man for most of the film, not a dick fucking an ass for most of the film.

Good post!

[huntneo]

I may be alone in this--but I actually like the closeup shots.

[Sultan]

I think you're not looking hard enough. I can always find porn, straight or gay, that I like.

[buddy1970]

Wow. I thought I was the only one!

This thread reminds me of another thread I started to celebrate the real men of Porn Past. I think we need a revival, based on all the responses thus far!

I have a video from this site that doesn't even show penetration, yet nine times out of ten it gets me off. The bottom is eager and vocal, the top is a grunting, manly beast.

This is what I want more of out of gay porn:

1. Full body shots.
2. Show the butt in action when the top is fucking.
3. Do more with the condoms. Show them being taken out of their wrappers, watch them being put on and taken off (with cum in them), etc.
4. Kissing and hugging, especially during the fuck.
5. Moaning.
6. Groaning.
7. Heavy breathing.
8. Desperation.
9. Forbidden scenarios.
10. Models that are unshaven, even if they're naturally smooth: I want to see what bush you've got, even if it's not much.
11. Cumshots that are lovingly poured over: slow-motion, multiple angles, close-ups, full body shots, etc.

Originally Posted by Alpha1851

Straight porn is better? What exactly do you like about it? The chicks w/ fake tits, bleached blond hair w/ black roots showing, who scream like a stuck pig when they're being fucked? The ugly ass men? Well, that's if you can even see the man at all. Most straight porn focuses on the chick.

As far as creativity goes, it's all pretty much the same scenario. The handyman comes over to help the poor girl and her sister w/ their pipes. The cableman comes over to install the extended package. The teacher disciplines the naughty Catholic school girl. Or, the fraternity plays a prank on the sorority and a wild orgy breaks out.

Even the sex is the same. It goes from handjob/titjob, to oral, to 69, to doggy, to missionary, to woman on top, to reverse cow girl, back to missionary, ending w/ the cumshot on the woman's face or back. Couple that w/ "Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh," "Fuck me, fuck me, fuck me, fuck me," "It's so big," "Oh god, oh god, oh god, oh god" and the straight porn flick is complete. Usually, straight porn contains raw/bare fucking (I think you all call it bareback) so if that floats your boat, I guess straight porn would have more to offer. Just mute it first.

If there's a huge female fan base in gay porn, I'd love to meet the other women.

I could have written this myself I like straight porn but most of it is guilty of most of the things listed in this post. It's just a stale industry where nothing will ever change as long as it sells the way it is.

[norik]

American porn is boring, european is more funny hot and imaginative, just see Cazzo, Sprittz or Eurocreme movies.