I find the most interesting thing in this thread is how a certain poster who whines about others acting like mods and trying to tell others what to do spends so much time and haiku telling everyone what they should do.
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I find the most interesting thing in this thread is how a certain poster who whines about others acting like mods and trying to tell others what to do spends so much time and haiku telling everyone what they should do.
I'm going to describe the problem with a mathematical view: looking at "Jews for Hitler" as a vector, it's in the right direction but is too great in length.
I basically think the same thing...I get the Jews for Hitler reference and there is good reason for it....
Case in point...Uganda. Many Elected Republicans and American Evangelists had direct ties and many documented visits with the officials in UGANDA who adopted the DEATH TO GAYS legislation. When criticized by the world and some Americans a few of the bewildered Ugandan officals expressed surprise and oturage because they claimed they were acting on the advice of these Americans.
Take for instance this election. Buch and hsi policies got us into this mess. Obama was met with resistance fromt he Republcians who said NO to every effeort he made,...and now that we are making strides the American people want to return to the same policies that got us into this mess?
Omg.
I have to say that it made me laugh out loud to read the NAZI reference, which, I suppose, we will now all be told was completely intentional.
Bringing NAZI into a thread about Jews for Hitler to criticize the people who were critical of the reasoning behind the OP's hissy fit?
Absofuckinglutley priceless.
I am indeed more than that. I am a human being and a proud citizen of this incredible nation of ours deserving of basic rights and dignities. The irony is that I am not using the label "gay" in order to gain these rights; the opposition is using that label and distinction to keep those rights away from me.
Yes. I posted a story regarding the beating death of the leading gay activist in Uganda after his name was published in a newpspaer. And the dictator Yoweri Museveni (who has rigged multiple elections) is tied to many republicans and evangelists. Museveni is a horrible man who has murdered thousands. There was a quote from that video I posted... on how one Ugandan lawmaker thinks Uganda was a peaceful country before homosexuals started coming out.
Yes, Uganda was peaceful... with the peaceloving democrats Idi amin and Milton Obote... what a crock of BS. IF one looks up these two they would notice they were horrible despots (especially Amin) who murdered tens of thousands.
Jews for Hitler, while hyperbolic, accurately reflects the level of frustration advocates of LGBT rights have for LGBTs to vote against the interests of this community.
Jockboy, I agree with the "hyperbolic" part, but I think "interests" is too broad.
Maybe it's in my interests to have a government build a library, or maybe it's in my interests to see a road project completed with user-pay tolls instead of general revenue. We can differ on what our interests are. What the Republican party is attacking, election after election, dredging up petty bigotry and ignorance whenever it might squeeze out a few votes for them, is our basic human dignity. Gay people don't have an argument with Republicans over whether there should be a local sales tax or not; we're fighting their idea that we don't deserve full human rights.
I've mentioned it in other threads: my lesson from visiting Mauthausen was not how unique or otherworldly the place is: to the contrary, I was alarmed by how familiar it was, and how effortlessly it fits into a beautiful countryside filled with happy prosperous towns, hundreds of years old. It taught me that a concentration camp could be just over the next hill, in any community, without our vigilance.
And of course NAZIism did not materialize out of thin air. It congealed from hateful stinking attitudes of many Europeans toward minorities that NAZI party leaders exploited. The Republican Party includes too many people that give off the same whiff, and too many people indifferent to that as long as it gets them elected.
Just to clarify I hate this fucking thread!
On one hand I've been accused of "poisoning the well" by providing ammo for an argument to prove why any gay man might feel that way toward another.
On the other hand I appear to have (as a Moderator justified that distinction).
I've tried to inject some humor by indicating that it's a "West Coast/East Coast" Gay Thing.
West Coast Gays, who've been in the trenches trying to take back Marriage Equality that had already been given to them by the California State Supreme Court, and then in only a way that Californian's could do by referendum, was snatched away by serious financial support from the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons which former POTUS Candidate Romney serves as a Bishop) had any real bearing on this conversation.
Some East Coast Gays personally attacked me as a Moderator for giving credence to the West Coast Gay's argument (one, that is presumed that they couldn't have come up with on their own), until I brought up the fact that Romney is a Bishop in the Mormon church, and no one really want's to discuss that.
Here's my personal thing.
I have never agreed with the idea of denigrating some one because of their personal political choices.
That's what I personally hate about the direction that our political discourse has taken in our country.
But because I said nothing, both as a member of JUB, this forum, and as a Moderator, I apparently condoned one perception about what I stated previously in this thread, while not directly supporting a perception and perspective of why another fellow Gay Supported a different perspective.
Which is why this thread will remain closed, and the Obama Haters, and Obama Ball Lickers can go and fuck themselves.
If all that this forum is going to be, become, and perhaps remain is as an "echo chamber" of "like minded" Queers who are as intolerant of each other (either through geography, upbringing, or perspectives), as those who actively, politically, and financially hate us because we ARE QUEER, if that's the message, if that's the Welcome Sign outside the door of this forum, then it appears to me that most of you can't read:
And for some of you who don't understand that, there's any number of us back here who are more than happy to help clarify the meaning.Quote:
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