I find it disgraceful that all the Obama caricatures are based on ultra racist "negro" = "monkey" visual stereotypes.
I find it disgraceful that all the Obama caricatures are based on ultra racist "negro" = "monkey" visual stereotypes.
This man was photographed at a Romney campaign rally in Lancaster, Ohio on October 12, 2012.
Stifle yourself Edith with the Wright stuff. That's so 2008.
Did you go out & buy Ann's book?
As for Mitt's Church it wasn't til 78 that Blacks were openly accepted in the Mormon Religion. Mitt was already an adult. Someone should ask him how it felt to belong to a racist religion.
thought she was good with Bill Maher btw ........ but he wouldn't let her sit with the panel - pretty funny
my POINT is that the above visual is ........ yech
I could care less about Jeremiah Wright ....... but please don't bring up some racist goon and make it something it isn't
i know YOU didn't
If the text is that clear and bright -- the Romney sticker should also be clear and sharp .... it isn't.
CLEARLY A FAKE PHOTO
That's called Depth Of Field - objects outside the focus plain are blurred.
There's no evidence it's a fake. Looks perfectly real to me, and I do this kind of stuff for a living.
Jack you are such a desperate man.....
John McCain tried to say because it is cold in Ohio and the guy is in a T shirt then it must be a fake.... lol ... maybe for an old man with a chill in his bones. It is seventy right now in Lancaster Ohio.... lol
Have you never operated a thingy called a camera Jack?
A photo doesn't prove much. It would not be the first time the Dems sent a plant into a Republican gathering. What proof it was at a Republican rally? Photoshpped? Perhaps. In any event it is only one guy.
Yeah, sure, the Dems sent a plant to a Romney Rally. Plant's name?....Benny
Further, if you compare the wider parts on the sticker to the narrow bands in the lower letters on the shirt, they're comparable.
No evidence from that one for being fake.
You just don't want to admit that one of the main drivers for many Obama haters is that he just isn't...you know....
The bald headed guy's image is too clear ... except for the Romney sticker. When you photoshop a photo -- all the elements you add must blend well with the rest of the images in the photo -- this one doesn't -- the sticker is not sharp -- however the text on the t-shirt is extremely crisp .... too crisp.
.. plus the guy didn't have Obama's "big-three" for his definition of a racist --- a gun, ammo, and a Bible.
Things have a tendency to get dirty during the last several weeks of an election -- perfect example.
And you forgot to include the reaction from the Romney campaign.
Speaking to Buzzfeed, a Romney spokesperson said the garment is “reprehensible and has no place in this election.”
The photographer, Jamie Sabau of Getty Images, has testified that he saw the man inside the Romney campaign event in Lancaster, Ohio on 12 October 2012. Jodi Einhorn of Getty has confirmed that the image has not been altered in any way.
I appreciate that your Republican inclination is to deal with reality by denying that it is real. There is no global climate change, evolution is a centuries-old conspiracy of all the world's biologists, gay marriage would destroy straight marriage. But, the rest of us depend on facts.
Ummmm... ...what did you expect the Romney campaign to say? "We regret that the racism we try so hard to keep unstated attracts so many whose racism is overt?"
Jackoroe has a good point; after all, the communists endorsed Obama.
But people denying it's a real photo need to learn some physics and optics as regards the human eye.
10 minutes in photoshop ... and I'm not an expert.
Some people lie .... even photographers.
Either way -- if the guy is a racist -- I want nothing to do with him.
^There is actually a book about why you guys cannot accept reality.
The Republican Brain: The Science of Why They Deny Science and Reality.
It is about the psychology of Republicanism and why you guys find it necessary to create fantasy worlds. It analyzes the results of a lot of studies on Republicans and Democrats. It says you Republicans believe more wrong things than Democrats, you do not change your opinions when facts contradict them, and you have difficulty accepting new ideas.
But, it's a science book. So, I presume you're not interested.
Interestingly, although not done quite so controversially as I have posed the question, PBS is doing a election special based on race and politics. Which is drawing fire from the right wing radio personality fired for using the N word during a discussion on his program. Go figure he has complaints right?
The special, "Race 2012 ," is being advertised by PBS on its website as a "conversation about race and politics," and features interviews with former Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, author and legal scholar Randall Kennedy and conservative talk show host John Ziegler, among others. Topics discussed include the role of race in the election of President Barack Obama, the idea of a "post-racial society" and the notion of "white power" in America.
Still no proof it took place at Republican rally, or that he was not a plant. Who took the photo? Are we supposed to believe that a Republican took the photo and made it public? Or was he a Democrat, seeking to embarrass the Republicans, who just happened to find the guy with the shirt? Nah. An obvious hoax.
You mean like how psychologists continue to claim psychology is actually a science when it isn't? The irony is just so delicious!:badgrin:
even if you look at the t-shirt at 72dpi -- there are no wrinkles in the shirt --it's solid black.
both are fake -- just like the outrage about a blanket statement about republicans being racist
racists do exist -- they exist with both republicans and democrats, also with independents
some white people are racists, some black people are racists --- some of all races are racists
Jack, it's not fake. The photographer, Gettys Images (the largest photo sales company on Earth) who sold it, and a Photoshop expert at Gettys, have all verified it. I am a video professional and I use Photoshop every day, and I see no evidence of it being fake.
It's not fake.
This is exactly what we're talking about. You take a single opinion piece from a newspaper (which actually complains that psychology isn't scientific enough!) and you use that one opinion to try and deny an entire field of science!
Thank you for helping to prove the point. The irony is just so delicious!
Psychology is an academic and applied discipline that involves the scientific study of mental functions and behaviors.
Psychology Psy*chol"o*gy, n. pl. Psychologies. [Psycho- +
-logy: cf. F. psychologie. See Psychical.]
The science of the human soul; specifically, the systematic
or scientific knowledge of the powers and functions of the
human soul, so far as they are known by consciousness; a
treatise on the human soul.
Psychology, the science conversant about the phenomena
of the mind, or conscious subject, or self. --Sir W.
I might suggest that you read the book, Jackoroe, but it's full of facts. It wouldn't appeal to you.
There is no such thing as global warming. Evolution is a centuries-old conspiracy of the world's biologists. The HPV vaccine causes mental retardation. Legitimate rape cannot result in pregnancy. Gay marriage will destroy straight marriage. Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment against New Orleans for homosexuality.
I find it hard to carry on a conversation with Republicans. They don't live in this world.
The "opinion" had you bother to read it, was proffered by an actual scientist, and an editor of a scientific publication.
Now let's see who wrote the tome you put so much stock in.Quote:
Alex B. Berezow is the editor of RealClearScience.com, where this piece originally appeared. He has a doctorate in microbiology.
So, he doesn't even claim to be a scientist. Rather someone who can explain the pseudo-science of psychology. Just what are Mr. Money's credentials?Quote:
Bestselling author Chris Mooney uses cutting-edge research to explain the psychology
Mr. Mooney has a BA in English and lists his occupation as journalist.Quote:
Mooney was born in Mesa, Arizona, and grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana. He received his B.A. in English from Yale University in 1999, and has been a member of the board of the American Geophysical Union since November 2010.
So to review. We should discard the authoritative opinion given by an expert in the field of science and accept the writings of a journalist who possesses no academic credential on the very subject he's chosen to write about as Gospel truth.
Has everybody on the left taken leave of their senses?
And how did this thread get to be a purse fight over psychology versus Racism in the Republican Party?
"Blowback" is a place for readers of the L.A. Times to make their opinions heard. The L.A. Times describes it as "a cross between an Op-Ed and a letter to the editor."
The opinion of the psychologist in question (that psychology is not scientific enough, which happens to be true) does not negate the opinions of the hundreds of thousands of psychologists and other scientists out there who know that psychology is, in fact, a science. It is rather incredible to me that you believe you can wipe out a hundred years of research and an entire field of science on the basis of a single letter to the editor of the L.A. Times!
This is exactly what we're talking about. You Republicans can deny whole fields of study on the basis of a single letter to the editor of a newspaper. You create your own universes in which global climate change is a conspiracy of all the world's climate scientists. In which evolution is not biology. And in which psychology is not science. You accept nonsense as fact when the nonsense conforms better to your party's ideology. You do not live in a world of facts, you live in a world of party dogma. When that dogma is contradicted by truth, then it is necessary to deny the truth.
It is perfectly acceptable for a non-scientist to summarize the findings of scientists. The editor of Scientific American, Mariette DiChristina, is a journalist by training. The editor-in-chief of Popular Science, Jacob Ward, describes himself as a "television journalist." The managing editor of The Discovery Channel, Ted Koppel, is also a "television journalist." None of these people have any training in science whatsoever. But that does not mean that they cannot describe for us the findings of science.
Scientists are trained in science, not English. That's why most scientific reporting is done by English majors, not scientists. Indeed, that's why most writing/reporting of every type (politics, entertainment, science, business, travel, etc.) is done by English majors. Not politicians, entertainers, scientists, businessmen, travelers, etc.
This is the problem with the right. You do not accept evidence, reason, or scholarship. You cling to single opinions of single individuals as dogmatic and unarguable - even when that opinion is extreme and not shared by anyone else in the field. The criteria for acceptance is not how well an idea is regarded by the scientific community. It is how well that idea molds itself to Republican Party ideology. That's religion, not science.
Jack to keep it interesting could you please tell your fairly tales in the fashion of Grimm?
I'm sure there's a scientist out there somewhere that would write a book where he promotes the theory that democrats don't follow logic.
The racist thing has really gotten old -- time to move on.
I almost miss the nazi name calling.
How is the racist thingy getting old? You better embrace it if you embrace that party because as America gets diverse the republican party gets whiter and whiter so the only place for racist to go is republican.
Of course for a party that hates gays, hates women, hates Hispanics and says that helping black people is racism what would you expect?
Now answer me a very simple question. If you don't know, that's fine, just say so. Ready?
What's the name of the man wearing the shirt in the photo?
Nah can't be most plumbers are part of the 47% and belong to unions
The prejudice is in fact very similar to that of racism....